Well, "Little Sunflower" IS Freddie Hubbard's most famous tune... So the intention of that track was probably for people to recognize something familiar. I actually am one that has only heard Freddie Hubbard and neither of the records that sample him, so I don't know if the sample was significantly cut up or altered? /cyborg k

Brendan Nelson wrote:

I guess it doesn't make you like the track any less, but knowing that that
sound doesn't come directly from Bradock's mind subtracts slightly from the
awe one feels upon hearing it... when I hear tracks that have amazing sounds
in them a part of the appeal is that they came from the mind of the
producer. I'm less awe-struck when the sound is a sample, but you know what
they say - 'if it kick, it kick period'...

| -----Original Message-----
| From: Paul Wise [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 9:12 PM
| To: 313 mailing list
| Subject: Re: [313] Ugly Edits?
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| I give more credit to people that come up with new stuff...
|
| Don't get me wrong  it's still a great tune..but sampling something is not
| the same as coming up with it yourself
|
| I reckon 90 % of techno records that become classics are
| completely original
|
| *don't send me a barrage of disco/house tracks  that are sampled please*
|
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| > Just out of interest (I'm not saying there's anything wrong
| with it), why
| > would you feel betrayed?
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| >
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| > Paul Wise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/08/2002 20:35:02
| > To:    313 mailing list <313@hyperreal.org>
| > cc:
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| > Subject:    Re: [313] Ugly Edits?
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| > Strange  I feel betrayed  I love that deep burnt track...
| Didn't know it
| > was sample
| >
| > 3> Both Deep Burnt and Ugly Edit 3 sample Freddie Hubbard "Little
| > Sunflower"
| >>
| >>>>> Tristan Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/08/02 04:24PM >>>
| >> ----- Original Message -----
| >> From: "tom churchill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| >> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
| >> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 3:47 PM
| >> Subject: Re: [313] Ugly Edits?
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| >>> I don't have #2 or #3, but I think #3 has the same Freddie
| Hubbard track
| >>> that Pepe Bradock sampled for 'Deep Burnt' (the title escapes me - I'm
| >> sure
| >>> someone else will fill you in...)
| >>
| >> Whoa. That's a sample? I'd love to hear the original or UGE #3
| if anyone
| > can
| >> point me in the right direction. The Freddie Hubbard catalog is too
| > enormous
| >> to sift through song-by-song and I'm finding the UGE's nowhere.
| >>
| >> Tristan
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