now that sounds interesting, cos then you use the court case they won
against
them....oh the irony of it all.  So  surely if one Judge rules in favour
she'd have to do
the same for other creator, so then they can't lose! :0)

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Lees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 August 2002 16:57
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] > can you post this to the 313 list... ?


If someone had the time and not a lot to do :). It would be interesting 
to find out what would happen if you took every beastie boys song cut 
them up into 6 second clips a distributed them on the net??

Ian Cheshire wrote:
> " but they should have at least given credit to the
> author."
> 
>  by george they should of!what a load of brass monkey's!
> 
> oh copyright there sorry BB's I'll send you some cash for using it :0)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Leidy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 13 August 2002 16:43
> To: Ian Cheshire
> Cc: 'Robert Taylor'; 'jurren baars'; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: [313] > can you post this to the 313 list... ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>everyone, go round to Channel four and ask for Robert Taylor and then
> 
> follow
> 
>>him home and take what is his and make it yours cos after all There is a
>>school of thought that once a piece of work is in the public
>>domain it belongs to everyone.
>>
> 
> 
> alright, i know you're joking here, but just wanted to clarify because I
> think there is a case to be made for this school of thought.  you are
> talking about stealing someone's personal belongings- this has always been
> against the law and has nothing to do with copyright issues. the issue is
> when created works are distributed to the public, how the public is
> allowed to use those works.
> 
> there is a good 30 min speech wrapped in an 8meg flash file by Lawrence
> Lessig (author and Stanford Law Professor) promoting this school of
> thought here:
> http://randomfoo.net/oscon/2002/lessig/
> 
> and more info on what Lessig is up to at
> http://lessig.org
> 
> Regarding the Beastie Boys thing- I agree with the last few posts- there
> may be nothing wrong with their use of the work in a new and (arguably)
> original context- but they should have at least given credit to the
> author. I think many hip hoppers have a sort of hypocritical stance on
> sampling. They advocate it, but at the same time don't want to reveal
> their sources for fear of other hip hoppers swiping the same loops or
> discovering the secret weapons of their record collection :)
> 
> pete
> 
> 
>>yipee!
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: 13 August 2002 17:05
>>To: 'jurren baars'; 313@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: RE: [313] > can you post this to the 313 list... ?
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>the point is that james newton created
>>
>>the original piece; it's his work, so he has the right to do with it what
> 
> HE
> 
>>wants.
>>Does he really have that right?
>>There is a school of thought that once a piece of work is in the public
>>domain it belongs to everyone.
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