No that is not what he said, they gave it away because the whole
situation around the Jaguar was out of control. This is not about
being 'underground' it is just Mad Mike running his label the way he
wants to...
So are you saying that Mike Banks washed his hands of the record because it
might have interfered with UR's underground status? Now that IS underground.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 5:24 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) UR Shocker...
The problem here is everyone here is making assumptions about what UR did.
No
one here knows anything about what happened to that track and what it's
popularity caused.
Mike Banks relinquished that record when it became major. At first it was
cool
but then things just got ugly and Mike decided to drop the record from the
UR
catalogue and give it over to 430 West who marketed it all over the place.
Which is good and bad depending on how you look at it. UR is far from being
that much in the spotlight and UR is not responsible for the licensing of
that
record anymore. Ask 430 West as, I am sure they have legitimate reasons for
it.
BEFORE YOU(ANYBODY) MAKES ASSUMPTIONS... Know the FACTS!!!
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:32:09 -0000 Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
No-one is knocking the track, or the fact that
it's popular, but merely UR
making a big song and dance about being
independent and underground and then
licensing the track to major labels.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ja'Maul Redmond
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Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 1:27 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) UR Shocker...
Why is this a "Shocker"? The reason jaguar was
so popular is that everyone
played it despite of their genre' of choice.
I've heard it on many weird
obscure mixes, including trance and Progressive
house mixes. The track , in
my opinion, isn't a deep underground sounding
track anyway. I would expect
it to be licensed out to more mainstream
outlets. it's taking advantage of
the full potential of the song. Actually, I'm
more suprise that I haven't
heard it in a commercial.
Ja'Maul Redmond
PERKINS & WILL
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-----Original Message-----
From: rob webb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 5:37 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) UR Shocker...
>
>
> Robert Taylor:
>
> >If they were stick to their principles, they
> wouldn't sell any of their
> >records to the big chainstores. But of course
> they do.
>
> Submerge have no control over their records
ending-up in chainstores.
that's down to the distributor. they know
their records are carried by HMV,
Tower et al, and they can't do anything about
that, but they still want ppl
to support "Mom and Pop" stores in preference
to the majors.
with regard to the licencing, personally i see
no harm in it... without the
success of Jaguar would Submerge have had their
new building, would there be
so many wicked new records coming out of their
operation, would Submerge be
able to support and nurture talented ppl who
otherwise might not get a
chance?
Submerge make a point of being true to
themselves, being "underground" as we
like to perceive it. in my eyes there's a
difference between working within
the confines of the industry in order to
survive, develop, and grow, and
working within the industry in order to buy
yourself a penthouse in Monte
Carlo.
maybe you don't see a distinction there... but
i do.
rob
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