It may just be me but it seems that these days the OT threads seem to be the longest and usually have the largest contributions (the couple I can think of are "dance music & dancing", best decks & mixer, eminem, etc) The fact is if people wanna talk about these things its fine by me, as long as the subject title is appropriate you can choose what to ignore & delete.

that said, the 313techknow yahoo group might be a better place to talk about the technical stuff.

-Mike

Robert Taylor wrote:
Technical talk doesn't really hold my attention but I'm not gonna get p***ed
off about it.
If it don't interest me I just delete it.
Sometimes the 313 topic seems a little narrow 'cos it ain't the only thing
of interest in the world

-----Original Message-----
From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 3:39 PM
To: henrique casanova; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) headphones for monitoring?



 I think off topic discussions is what has kept me,
and i believe a lot of people, on this list. Sometimes
a breather from 'track id' or a discussion about
saunderson, mills etc. is needed. There are other
dimensions to detroit music, djing and
producing....and I'm sure there are other dimensions
to us as people.

 As for headphones, I personally like my big ole Sonys
that have a button that allows me to turn off one ear.


how's that for technical talk;)

d
--- henrique casanova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

seems like 313 has become a gear list latly. i think
that off-topic mails
(including this one) are 85% of the discussion this
last weeks.. : ]

----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:48 AM
Subject: (313) headphones for monitoring?



On Fri, 06 Dec 2002, Simon M Pascoe wrote:


does anyone have any recommendations for quality

headphones for monitoring (ie; not DJ headphones)
please ?

sImon Pascoe

***Simon:  Sony's MDR-V600 are good headphones,

and

thus good for any type of listening. But, I would
strongly caution you against producing only with
headphones.  If you produce with just headphones,

your

brain and your ears will work together to make

things

sound better than they really are and
psychoacoustically fill in the sonic holes.  Then

when

you play something on a speaker system that you've
produced while monitoring on headphones, you will

find

that your balances will be off (too much/too

little of

different frequencies).  I broke this rule a month

or

so back and it was obvious:  I had been working on

a

remix for Tristan (Phonopsia) and decided to play

with

my rough version during a live PA.  All was

sounding

great till I dropped in the bassline I had created
and--even over the club's system--it just wasn't
cutting it.  Turned out that I had done the

bassline

one night while my girlfriend was over; she was

really

tired and had gone to bed, and I was working on
headphones so as not to disturb her.  So the rest

of

the remix, that which had been done on monitors,

was

fine, but the balance, because I had done it on
headphones, wasn't all that it was cracked up to

be

because my ears and my brain had made it sound

better

and more "right" than it really was.  (Over the
headphones, it was like "wow, this is a sweet
bassline"; over the club speakers--and mind you,
everything else sounded great--it was like "uh,

what

the hell is this?")  Note to Tristan:  Don't

worry,

I'll be fixing this! :)  So, if you want to get a

bit

of work done--say late at night--and don't want to
disturb room mates/partners with your work, use

the

headphones to get some rough work done (editing

sounds,

things like that that aren't frequency and
balance-based) and not disturb them, but it is

best to

use monitors and headphones when getting into

EQing,

mixdowns, mastering, etc-- monitors to get the

balances

right, and then headphones later to listen to the
quieter and more detailed parts, fade outs, listen

for

unwanted clicks, errors, etc, and fine tune 'em.

Hope

this helps. Take care. Andrew

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