Yeah, I think Gerald actually contributed in quite a major way to Pacific and got ripped off quite badly by the rest of the group. The earlier 808 State material is good, but it's not as good as what was coming out of Detroit and Chicago at that time - for me, it's Pacific that really differentiated them from the music coming out of the US.
As the Gerald-less 808 State started trying to come up with new material, though, it all went horribly wrong, and by the time Gorgeous came out 808 State records were more useful as frisbees than as things to actually listen to... (imho!) Brendan | -----Original Message----- | From: P dircon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 13 December 2002 20:47 | To: Brendan Nelson; Toby Frith; Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; 313 | Subject: Re: (313) 808 State | | | Personally, in early days 88-89 when 808state included a | guy called gerald | they were pretty damn goos ... He left after the whole | pacific state thing | in 1990 after which I thought 808 state were pretty attrocious | | p | | > 808 State is basically Pacific 707 - I tend to think of their New | > Build-era material as passable but generic early techno, | and their post | > Ex:El material as noodly, overproduced "electronica", but | the Pacific | > track is an absolute classic. In many ways it is underrated | by a lot of | > Detroit techno fans, because it was a really early appearance of the | > jazz-techno sound that eventually became more widespread | after Nation 2 | > Nation, World 2 World etc, and I don't think it receives | its fair dues | > in that respect. | > | > If you own Ex:El then you get Pacific but also quite a few | tracks which | > have dated really badly. If you own "State 2 State" (a US mini-album | > release from just after Ex:El) you get a really nice mix of | Pacific, and | > a bunch of other tracks that actually haven't dated badly at all. | > There's a track on there with the strings from Pacific | running over the | > "Welcome to techno city" Cybotron sample! I'd love to have that on | > vinyl... | > | > Brendan | > | > | -----Original Message----- | > | From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | Sent: 13 December 2002 10:05 | > | To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; '313' | > | Subject: Re: (313) 808 State | > | | > | | > | The Quadrastate EP from 88/89 is good - "Ex:El" from '91 is | > | ok. Some of | > | their material has dated rather badly though IMHO. | > | | > | | > | | > | ----- Original Message ----- | > | From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > | To: '313' <313@hyperreal.org> | > | Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 10:03 AM | > | Subject: (313) 808 State | > | | > | | > | > Just been reading the Blake Baxter interview on Overloads | > | and there seems | > | to | > | > be an loads of references to 808 State in Detroit techno, | > | so I like to | > | hear | > | > some of thier material - which albums would you readers | recomend ? | > | > | > | > thanks | > | > | > | > | > | | > | | |
