> > > I mean, go dig out Jaguar again and tell me that's a sample... IMHO > > there is no way. Have you ever tried to sample stuff and > use it in a > > track? There's extraordinary difficulty in finding a clean enough > > version of that string part of the track to be able to sample it and > > make Jaguar with it. Still, everyone's ears are > subjective and it's > > something neither of us can conclusively prove one way or the other. > > :) > > > Exactly. If someone doesn't want to buy that it can't be a > sample based on > technical or melodic considertions, the argument remains the two ships > passing in the night that it is. However, there is > 99.99999999999999999999999999999% no way it could have been > sampled, either > because of the derth of other sounds cluttering those strings > throughout, or > because (to my ears), there is not a single point in the > original where a > string plays 1 sustained monotone note, and if you sample the > chord, you > can't reconstruct a 'normal' sounding chord out of where it > came from, which > is precisely how Jaguar is constructed. This is a hard-fast technical > limitation of sampling in my experience, unless there is > something huge I am > missing. It's chords throughout, except for maybe that little > 5-note trill > that everyone's sweating at the beginning of the phrase, > which no one is > disputing sounds nearly identical, but that doesn't mean it's > a sample, for > all the reasons above.
Also the string sound used is probably some standard preset sound, the short riddle in the start is done by so many people more, it is not something that is so original it is in thousands of other records, so it uses the same chords, so what? That is just a basic musical training. The submerge people are musically enough that they could play this string the way they did. Assuming that this is ripped (or sampled) is just as bizzare as accusing Derrick May from ripping some old eighties track just because he used the lately bass.... KJ -------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --------------------------------------------------------------