And SCSI-9, Antonelli Electric and all those Russki bods - nice, deep and 
slow(ish)

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>-Polmo Polpo "The Science of Breath"-also, deep, atmospheric, lush, but
this
>beat that just rolls underneath.

I second that with strong favor - if you want to feel like you've got a
thousand pounds of pressure pushing in on you, this CD will do the trick.

I'll add just about anything on the Din and Toytronic label to this list of
things to look for. And Monolake of course.

MEK


                                                                                
                                           
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I've noticed this too.  Obviously, the faster the music the higher the
heart
rate and there's the whole psycho-acoustic debate, which is really
interesting IMO, in which there have been some studies showing that the way
that some techno is produced (digital vs. analog) and how the ear/brain has
to process it due to said production, lends itself to inducing
anxiety/raised heart beat/fight or flight response basically, as well. Or
just brain shutdown - meaning the brain can't process the sounds properly
so
you find your thoughts wandering away from the music instead of becoming
absorbed by it. Maybe someone else on the list knows more about this?

But hey, I think its like anything that raises the heart beat (strenuous
exercise for example) too much isn't healthy, too little and you're a couch
potato.  Everything in moderation, right?  From what I've heard 133bpm is
supposed to be ideal.  It'll keep a dance floor going all night.  Anything
faster and most people can't keep up no matter what age, anything slower
the
mind starts to wander if you are looking to dance.

As for less banging techno, but that still has some forward momentum...
-I second the motion on Scion's "Arrange and Process Basic Channel Tracks"
-
absolutely fantastic and the transition between track two and three never
fails to make my body go freaky with joy.  You'll want to move, but it
won't
induce heart attack! ;)
-Also Tinkertoy "Transatlantic Love Machine" - good deep sounds,
implications of beat without a banging kick, which finally moves into kick,
but deep and rolling.  Its a relaxing beat due to the rest of the
atmosphere
of the music.
-Polmo Polpo "The Science of Breath"-also, deep, atmospheric, lush, but
this
beat that just rolls underneath.
-And of course there's always Plastikman :)

Erin



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Sent: August 28, 2003 10:18 AM
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to quote Robin. "i must be getting old, i like my techno a lot slower these
days (yeah and i mean techno, not house)"

Sorry if this is really boring but someone may have a view on this. Techno
with its 120-130 bpm raises the heartbeat and Blood Pressure..yep Ive tried
it with a moniter....listen to Det Esc Co or Urban Tribe and everything is
down again. At 38 you need to think of these things : )

So is persistent exposure to fast bpms bad for your health ? Is it better
to
come home and not listen to techno to 'relax'. And keep it for the times
you
wanna feel hyped.

Is there good slower techno out there that it not too 'noodly' and 'soft'..
I
don't mind the harshness is more to do with the BPMs.



Rav



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