hands stay very low

same for all "ugly edits"

- those are even worse,
average re-edits of old tracks

so i had a good laugh about the uk-bootleg

bootlegging a bootleg so to say

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "placid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Matt Chester'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'313 Detroit'" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: (313) axis


Can we have a quick show of hands...  who bought see / the / light...

*hand goes up*

although I got mine from the axis shop along with the 'alarms' and
'condor to mallorca' remixes...

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Chester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 14 January 2004 15:35
To: 313 Detroit
Subject: Re: (313) axis

I'm sorry, but I see no decent excuses for this kind of pricing
whatsoever,
especially for a label as huge as Axis.  As was the case with the
Peacefrog
limited editions, it's blatently just using peoples addiction to rare
vinyl
as an excuse for jacking the prices through the roof to make a large
profit.
I'm all for limited releases, but it's just cheap to charge more for
them.

At the moment, if I press up 800 copies of a release it costs about
£1200
(less in N.America), and on a standard price to distributors (which =
about
£5.50 in the stores) it takes about 500 sales to break even.  So to
double
that price and claim it's to cover costs is ridiculous.  Whilst the
figures
for a small independant label are tight as hell, I seriously doubt
raising
the prices will help - distributors and stores would take an accordingly
higher cut, and sales would probably drop a bit as people find their
addictions harder and harder to sustain.

For Axis, it strikes me as pure greed - they know damn well that they
will
sell out every single copy, and the profit to them will be huge
(percentage
wise, at least).  The bit about prices being forced up by the
distributors
is ridiculous - a label with the clout of Jeff's can easily keep their
distributor to a set standard markup.  It just seems like elitism - he
knows
people lap up everything he puts out, and can basically charge what he
wants.   People might complain, but they'll still shell out...  Leaving
less
cash to support other, smaller outfits...

Grrrrr.... ;-)


----- Original Message -----
From: robin
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:00 PM
Subject: RE: (313) axis



hmmm well it's these kind of things that make me grumble too. the
argument that if you don't like the price don't buy it doesn't wash
either (vinyl is an addiction to most around here)...

so mebbe vinyl is becoming more of a niche thing (most independent stuff
has runs of say 1500 if yer lucky) and this is a way of recouping the
costs. if you follow that through we're looking at a new price for 12s
aren't we? but won't this mean vinyl becomes more niche?

the above angle only holds for mahogani tho, not axis due to their
respective sizes.


robin...

-> So, how come that new Jeff Mills project is £10.99 per twelve?
->
-> That's £32.97 if you want the triple LP. ($60.50 Eu47.80)
->
-> "See The Light". I certainly have Jeff, I've seen your
-> porsche and all, you
-> thieving git.
->
-> and that Mahogani. £7.49 for half a one sided 12"?
-> pah.
->
-> Is there a reason? am I missing something?
->
-> answers on a postcard please.
->
-> many thanks.
->
-> alex
-> *pricing watchdog co-ordinator*
-> or
-> *moaning dumb fool mug punter*



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