maybe the problem is that his fat grumpy ass wants a business class
flight.

On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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> Ok so why is it that nobody comes?
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> is it that there isn't radio play?
> how often do you hear I-F on the radio in the UK or Europe? Even in
> Holland? (I'd like to know actually)
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> I try to listen to radio stations (online) from other countries but most of
> what I hear is the same kind of pop sh*t I hear in the US
>
> there are usually community radio stations in just about every market in
> the US that has some sort of techno/house/dance music program
> I would imagine that they aren't all playing from the list of top 100 DJs
> from DJ/Mixmag magazine
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> I've been seeing I-F's album in one of my local independent mega stores
> (Cheapo's - the Minnesota equivalent to Amoeba)
> I don't know how it's selling though
>
> so is it the event promoters?
> are they not getting it? is the US still stuck in the "rave" mentality?
> when I mention events with DJs to people I often get looks like "I don't
> want to listen to THAT kind of music"
> doesn't matter what kind of music it might be - seems like DJs = rave
>
> maybe distribution is a problem as well
> I'm open to discuss this and maybe get some insight on what "our" problem
> is here in the US
>
> MEK
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>                       "Blackman, Ryan
>                       (UKEKT)"                       To:       "'robin'" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Steward, Tim"
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> No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)
>                       04/05/04 11:22 AM
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> How many times would you fly (in this case) from Holland to the States, to
> gigs where no one came to?
> You'd get sick of it in the end, and would probably accept gigs on the
> basis
> that they are at least gonna be worth your while....
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> It's not exactly a new thing (decent artists bombing in the US) anyway.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 05 April 2004 5:06
> To: Steward, Tim
> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)
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> yeah but ferenc might think that's too much bother for the return he
> gets so would rather put that effort elsewhere.
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> anyway you americans burn disco records in your stadiums...that irks us
> disco loving europeans. :) (and there's the detroit on-topicness too)
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> robin...
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> Steward, Tim wrote:
> > I also disagree - because a record label is responsible
> > for marketing and promotion or the artist...being here
> > in the US- Detroit to be exact... if artist don't choose
> > to promote themselves in this market how do they expect
> > people to know what they are about or trying to do..
> > I'm just one of the lucky people who has a job that
> > allows me to travel to other countries, but with the job
> > industry I am sure that is rare for most people...
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> > Just thoughts...
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> > TS-1
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:52 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F dicussion)
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> > Well, Ferenc's agent told me that he doesn't think the US audience
> > understands what it is he's trying to do, or what he's about.
> >
> > I disagree, of course, but he doesn't listen to me, obviously ;)
> >
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> >>>he's told his agents that he never wants to play in the US again
> >>
> >>Did he state for what reason?
> >>
> >>This isn't the first time I've heard this and I'm sure many
> >>other list members have heard artists say this.
> >>
> >>US artists who rarely play in the US or who leave the US to live
> elsewhere
> >>because they are requested to play more often in other countries
> >>and
> >>DJs/musicicans from other countries that have played in the US but now
> >>refuse to
> >>
> >>what reasons have other artists stated as their reason for immigrating or
> >>refusing to play in the states?
> >>
> >>frustrates me that this happens (although in certain cases I understand)
> >>
> >>MEK
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