http://www.hotmix.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?id=407&p=3




On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> maybe the problem is that his fat grumpy ass wants a business class
> flight.
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> On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > Ok so why is it that nobody comes?
> >
> > is it that there isn't radio play?
> > how often do you hear I-F on the radio in the UK or Europe? Even in
> > Holland? (I'd like to know actually)
> >
> > I try to listen to radio stations (online) from other countries but most of
> > what I hear is the same kind of pop sh*t I hear in the US
> >
> > there are usually community radio stations in just about every market in
> > the US that has some sort of techno/house/dance music program
> > I would imagine that they aren't all playing from the list of top 100 DJs
> > from DJ/Mixmag magazine
> >
> > I've been seeing I-F's album in one of my local independent mega stores
> > (Cheapo's - the Minnesota equivalent to Amoeba)
> > I don't know how it's selling though
> >
> > so is it the event promoters?
> > are they not getting it? is the US still stuck in the "rave" mentality?
> > when I mention events with DJs to people I often get looks like "I don't
> > want to listen to THAT kind of music"
> > doesn't matter what kind of music it might be - seems like DJs = rave
> >
> > maybe distribution is a problem as well
> > I'm open to discuss this and maybe get some insight on what "our" problem
> > is here in the US
> >
> > MEK
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> >
> >                       "Blackman, Ryan
> >                       (UKEKT)"                       To:       "'robin'" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Steward, Tim"
> >                       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]         <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >                       och.eu.com>                    cc:       
> > [email protected]
> >                                                      Subject:  RE: (313) 
> > Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)
> >                       04/05/04 11:22 AM
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> > How many times would you fly (in this case) from Holland to the States, to
> > gigs where no one came to?
> > You'd get sick of it in the end, and would probably accept gigs on the
> > basis
> > that they are at least gonna be worth your while....
> >
> > It's not exactly a new thing (decent artists bombing in the US) anyway.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 05 April 2004 5:06
> > To: Steward, Tim
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F discussion)
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> > yeah but ferenc might think that's too much bother for the return he
> > gets so would rather put that effort elsewhere.
> >
> > anyway you americans burn disco records in your stadiums...that irks us
> > disco loving europeans. :) (and there's the detroit on-topicness too)
> >
> >
> > robin...
> >
> > Steward, Tim wrote:
> > > I also disagree - because a record label is responsible
> > > for marketing and promotion or the artist...being here
> > > in the US- Detroit to be exact... if artist don't choose
> > > to promote themselves in this market how do they expect
> > > people to know what they are about or trying to do..
> > > I'm just one of the lucky people who has a job that
> > > allows me to travel to other countries, but with the job
> > > industry I am sure that is rare for most people...
> > >
> > > Just thoughts...
> > >
> > > TS-1
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:52 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: (313) Re: No play in the USA (was Movement I-F dicussion)
> > >
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> > > Well, Ferenc's agent told me that he doesn't think the US audience
> > > understands what it is he's trying to do, or what he's about.
> > >
> > > I disagree, of course, but he doesn't listen to me, obviously ;)
> > >
> > > e
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> > >
> > >>
> > >>>he's told his agents that he never wants to play in the US again
> > >>
> > >>Did he state for what reason?
> > >>
> > >>This isn't the first time I've heard this and I'm sure many
> > >>other list members have heard artists say this.
> > >>
> > >>US artists who rarely play in the US or who leave the US to live
> > elsewhere
> > >>because they are requested to play more often in other countries
> > >>and
> > >>DJs/musicicans from other countries that have played in the US but now
> > >>refuse to
> > >>
> > >>what reasons have other artists stated as their reason for immigrating or
> > >>refusing to play in the states?
> > >>
> > >>frustrates me that this happens (although in certain cases I understand)
> > >>
> > >>MEK
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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