Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:42:05 +0200
To: <[email protected]>
From: "Peteri, Jochem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: (313) 909s
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I know its weird, but ive been feeding it to the mpc and it wont =
work...only if you loop it
its like those pedal hihats the dr rhythm makes if you double open and
=
closed hihats, everything goes all weird in the rhythm section. Also,
my =
compressor reacts totally different to an original and a sampled 909 =
kick. I sample it straight from the source(individual outs) and still =
the real kick kills anything within sight..
not really a scientific explanation but enough to keep the 909 in the =
setup and give it half my mixer instead of giving it to the MPC(which =
has replaced all other drummachines in my setup)
hope its of some use..... ; )
And the kick is essential, you cannot sample this baby. =20
Can you elaborate on this?
I'm not arguing with it. I'm just not clear on the idea of an=20
"unsampleable" sound.
--=20
Dennis DeSantis
www.dennisdesantis.com
The best I heard it explained was this way:: (Thanks Discovery Channel)
Think of Digital (sampled drum hits in this case) as a light switch,
the light is either on or off, yes or no, 1's and 0's. Think of Analog
(a bass kick from 808/909 or old synth sound) as a bunch of maybes.
There is no clear on/off. Electricity triggered by hitting the switch
on the machine turns into a voltage spike that tells the machine to
make a sound.
Here is the main concept why sampling a 909/808 kick sounds weak, with
the sample you get a "snapshot" of that one kick you sampled, that kick
will be the same every single time you play it (yes/no, on/off).
Whereas an analog kick changes depending on how circuits transduce that
electricity, it will be different ever single time you play it.
An analog kick will always sound "bigger", cause it's a living,
breathing, moving thing, it fills space. Maybe that's where the
concept of it being "unsampleable" comes from. I think as technology &
sample rates get better digital will come closer to filling the gaps
and the maybes that analog has provided for us. Some people here
believe we are very close with some machines (waldorf, access, some
software) with synth sounds. But nothing yet can compare to that
808/909 kick. We can emulate the hi-hats (mute groups on the MPC or
software)...but not yet the kick. An 808/909 kick is a beautiful
thing, but so is a sampled kick, break whatever.
Hope this helps explain and didn't confuse the hell out of anybody.
-Kevin
