Fair enough. For me the beginning of the end was when Charlie went on top of the pops. Dont get me wrong it wasnt the Charlie sample or anything that I liked, it was just hearing a sound that wasnt quite like any sound you had heard before for the first time. Ditto tracks like Cubik, Track with no name by Flowmasters and countless others that I cant think of off hand. I was perfectly able to go home and appreciate a bit of Model 500, Rhythim is Rhythim or Nexus 21 and then go mad to something like The Horn track down Sterns on a Saturday night. Yeah, it was music purley for getting off your head too, but hey, when I was 17 thats pretty much all I did!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Placid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Stewart Caig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 4:03 PM Subject: Re: (313) Hardcore u no the score (was rob hall etc) > for me, when i heard charlie for the 1st time..(i was in the zap club, > at a tonka party) it was the beginning of the end. > > my beloved house was being dirtied by this horrible breakbeat, sampled > disposable music... > > for many, it was the start of something fresh and unique, their own > stamp, a uk thing, which was all good.... > > i jus didn't get it. in fact i still don't get it...music for purely > for getting off your head to but lacking any depth...kind of belittles > the whole thing for me.... > > but then i am very picky and closed minded... > > p > > Stewart Caig wrote: > > >>>C'mon let's face it, hardcore, whether it was 'ardkore, or happy was a > >>>big pile of sh*t and had the musical content of a cheese sandwich > >>> > >>> > > >>>Yeah but most the hardcore stuff from back then was never meant to stand the > >>>test of time and have any great musical merit. It was largley made by people > >>>who liked doing Es and was made for people who liked doing Es. Maybe not all > >>>the time, but it was music that was all about the moment. Anyone who was > >>>caught up in that era such as myself will always find it hard to fully > >>>dismiss that music no matter how crap a lot of it sounds now because it was > >>>still the soundtrack to hundreds of pilled up nights that helped make me the > >>>person I am today. Yeah, I was digging a lot of 'better' music back then, > >>>but I haven't experienced many better buzzes in my life than being pilled up > >>>to the eyeballs and hearing $hit like Charlie for the first time. So what if > >>>it doesn't hold up musically, it made me wanna dance like a loon when I was > >>>17 and there's something to be said for music that JUST does that and > >>>nothing more. Having said that though I do shudder when I think of what half > >>>my record collection back then sounds like! > >>> > >>>Stu > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >