On 3/27/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 3/27/07, Nick Breinich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> the only gear "at fault" is the human mind.  i would wager that both
> aril brikha and photek are making exactly what they want to make.
> they could at any time choose any setup they like.

instead of just making music, theyre worried about non-music nonsense.
which is why they changed their setup and now make trash. if they like
it, good for them. theyre just making themselves (and people who make
excuses for it) look ridiculous.

> just because photek has "moved on" from what you liked about his
> earlier work doesn't mean the computer is at fault.  even in the
> largely hardware based days of the 90's, LOTS of people were striving
> for the same sound regardless of the gear...actually i'd say it's
> almost the opposite.  people wanted the 303 JUST FOR that
> sameness...just for that particular sound.

exactly! but because that sound was made as easy as purchasing a 303,
all that shows through in the end is the creativity of the person
using it. that is the ideal situation. give everyone the same crap,
see who can make it do the best stuff. that is the creative person,
the person with talent. everyone uses a 909, no one uses a 909 like
jeff mills. thats why he's one of the techno gods and most others
arent.

the idea is that sound is irrelevent. use the simple things that allow
creativity and do things differently with them.

tom


right we're on the same page.  my only point of contention is that i
know how to use a computer/ableton/cubase/whatever pretty well and
quickly now (along w/ many others on here).  it took me a while to
ramp up to having "quick-access" working knowledge, but it takes
anyone quite a few years to be good at guitar too.  that being said, i
definitely recognize the increase in "fail points" the more complex
any technology gets.  but also, once you get a few synths down pat, a
few programs/samplers that you are very familiar with...it's all the
same stuff.  it gets easier as you well know (new arcane or paradigm
shifting technology being the exception here.)  of course, there is a
waste in learning the ropes over and over again as you say.  but you
know...that's when it's good to just stick to your core.  being able
to juggle both ignoring and integrating non-critical software updates
and new features can be a key skill to have.  if you are feeling
uninspired, sometimes playing with a new instrument/plug-in/whatever
can get you goin.

but as far as making crap generic sounds, it's all in the brain.  some
people just don't put the effort or have the skills to make something
excellent.  it takes a ton of work.

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