Just for the sake of playing the devil's advocate:

what you do on the turntables should be determined by your skill level
and inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or have access to.
instead of letting record companies, distributors, and record stores
determine what tracks you have access to you can play tracks by
anybody that cares to post them.

You're point against record companies, distributors, etc. overlooks somethings. For example: if you don't have access to a computer that you can easily download mp3 files from, have a portable computer, and/or can't afford the FinalScratch hardware. Vinyl, 2 and a mixer (there are cheap ones) are still more affordable and accessable to people than digitally based mixing systems.
Other than that I agree with you 100%.

MEK





From: "James Bucknell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Vince Woolums" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 21:05:29 -0400



i don't think you understand what final stratch is, and how de9(?) was made.

as far as i know, de9 wasn't made using final stratch. it was made in the
studio, with samplers and sequences--it's essentially a 60 minute track remixed
by richie hawtin. it's not a dj mix cd.

final stratch is a tool that allows use to use two regular turntables and a
regular mixer to control any a digital file on a computer just like you would a slab of vinyl. you slow the turntable down and the digital file slows down etc.
you do it live. it's not digital editing tool like pro tools or peak etc.
anything you do with you do live.

as for the detrimental trade on vinyl. well, it's heavy, wears out, and is hard to distribute. digital files can be endlessly copied and emailed all over the place, placed on sites. it allows more people to have access to more music. what
you do on the turntables should be determined by your skill level and
inventiveness, not by the vinyl you can afford or have access to.
instead of letting record companies, distributors, and record stores determine what tracks you have access to you can play tracks by anybody that cares to post
them.
james
www.jbucknell.com





"Vince Woolums" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 10/17/2001 10:28:34 AM

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Personally, I just can't get into Final Scratch and digital editing.  There
are hundreds DJs out there who are equipped with the physical hardware to
(nearly) do this kind of audio montage live.  They're called turntablists.
And in techno, a few names shouldn't be too far out of mind - Mills, Young,
Parker, Bone to name a few key Detroiters.

Not to mention the detrimental effect use of digital files may have on the
trade of vinyl discs...

Vince Woolums
AOL IM: vincewoolums
http://bnsrecords.gemm.com
http://www.recordcollectorinc.com

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> Mixed reviews is the consensus.  I personally thought musically, the cd
> was pretty cool and funky.  I've said before that it sounded Studio
> One-ish. This series is all about the gear and techniques that goes into
> the production of these mixes, not necessarily the music itself,
> although some people expected way too much from R1chie musically, hence
> the mixed reviews.
>
> g.
>
> Rusty Blasco wrote:
>
> > So what's the consensus floating around thus far concerning the new
> > R!chie H!wtin joint?  I personally haven't heard it yet and am waiting
> > for my first paycheck in months (fingers crossed it doesn't get held
> > up somewhere in the bureaucratic process); a positive public opinion
> > will increase the excitement I have towards my not-too-distant
> > purchase.  Has he mellowed out or become any housier (as a colleague
> > informed me)?  Please respond to me personally.
> >
> >     Rusty
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