Ah yes.

It takes quite a bit to stir me from my lurker-slumber. But you can pat
yourself on the back, Mr. Burns - you got me here.

Your post was so asinine and without merit that I can honestly say that you
sir... you are a putz of the greatest magnitude. Being a guest to many a
performance of Dale's (usually rumbling through the floor), I can guarantee
that Dale was definitely not playing from DAT at the DEMF. Let's just say,
he made some distinct... improvisations... from the intended set.

--

Hey Dale, I could have saved you a lot of dough. What'd you buy all those
expensive 'props' for? Maybe we could fashion you something up out of some
old cardboard boxes next time.

Sometimes, people still amaze me.

Yours,
tim

on 10/23/01 10:42 PM, ryan burns at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> Dale, i thought it was "Blashpemy" when you did a live pa at demf and all
> you did was play pre recorded stuff off dat.
> nobody said *gasp* "oh no technology is threadening my livelihood".  from
> what ive seen mixing off computer is lame.  just like when your supossed to
> play and all you do is hit play on the dat.
> 
> 
> ryan
> 
> 
>> From: Dale Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>> I have to agree with you.  It seems whenever a new
>> technology is introduced, the status quo immediately
>> feels threatened by it and does everything in its
>> power to slag it--methodically.  The funny part
>> is that usually the bigger the stir about something
>> new, the more you can count on it becoming an
>> accepted new medium for creation.  It happens in
>> both the audio and visual arts.  A simple
>> example would be the camera.  When the camera
>> first came around the painters of the world
>> united and screamed "Blashpemy! That 'device' is
>> doing all the work!  All they do is press the
>> button and the image is recorded!"...
>> 
>> Now how many people on this list believe that
>> the camera does all of the work in the creative
>> process of photography?
>> 
>> Those painters were fools...
>> 
>> Back to recent modern times.  How many people
>> here use drum machines?  How many of our favorite
>> songs use drum machines?  Would our music not
>> exist without the drum machine?  But when they
>> were first developed the 'real' musicians, who
>> had been doing it 'the correct way' since 'back
>> in the day' screamed "Blashpemy! That 'device' is
>> doing all the work! Just press the button and the
>> beats just come pouring out of it!"  Where is
>> the creativity in that?
>> 
>> Is it the device, or what you do with it?
>> 
>> Next on the electronic musical timeline:
>> The Sampler.
>> 
>> Oh no!  Here is a piece of equipment that all
>> you do is press record, and it allows you to
>> replay whatever it was that you recorded, spread            out across your
>> keyboard-- including other people's
>> music.  Hell, you don't even have to program beats
>> anymore.  In fact, even the users of the drum
>> machine, who's rhythm devices had just recently
>> gained acceptance as a justified creative musical
>> instrument were screaming, "Blashpemy! That 'device'
>> is doing all the work!  Just press that button
>> and it plays back whatever they recorded from
>> somewhere else!"
>> 
>> Now, eventually everyone realized that while
>> the P.Diddy's chose to capitalize on the misuse
>> of the technology, the majority of sampler users
>> were keeping it real, and expanding their
>> creative realm the old fashioned way, through
>> inspiration.  Except, maybe by now it was
>> 10% inspiration to 90% perspiration, compared to
>> the old 1%-- terrible odds huh?
>> 
>> After the sampler what happened?  A sh|tload of
>> PC's started appearing in everyone's home and
>> software based music creation avenues soon
>> followed.  You could get a program that did
>> almost anything, simulated analog keyboards,
>> simulated digital keyboards, simulated drum
>> machines, and *gasp* samplers even.  This wave
>> is very recent over the past few years, but
>> do you think it was a smooth evolution?
>> Absolutely not.  Who screamed the loudest?
>> Come on, fill in the blank right here _______.
>> That's right, the owners of the samplers and
>> drum machines.  After all, they had just invested
>> all their hard-earned money-- thousands and
>> thousands of dollars-- into their gear, and now
>> any kid with a home computer could jump on hotline
>> and have a complete musical studio set up inside
>> their PC within hours?  They had just recently
>> --finally-- been recognized as the true innovators
>> and then the next wave comes along and threatens
>> their livelihood.  "Blashpemy! That 'device'
>> is doing all the work!  Just press that button
>> and the computer writes the entire arrangement
>> from start to finish!  Where is the creative process
>> in that!?"
>> 
>> This is a cycle that will never end.  It is human
>> nature.  The irony here is that this music was
>> inspired by technology-- in fact, they called it
>> "Techno", and for a reason-- yet, when a new
>> technology is developed to further the music,
>> the former Techno 'pioneers' seem to be the first
>> to try and hold it back, but not because it isn't
>> the future, but more simply, because it is a direct
>> threat to them, and to their livelihood.  It's as
>> simple as that, and that is how revolutions happen.
>> That is how the nobody's, who start out with nothing
>> can step in and rise to the top of their game,
>> because those who already have, refuse to evolve.
>> They refuse to push forward and are eventually passed
>> right by...  and left behind...
>> 
>> Because honestly, do you really think the people that
>> embrace the new tools, are simply trying to recreate
>> what the people with the old tools were doing 12, to
>> 20 years ago?  Absolutely not.  If that were the
>> case, just go buy a drum set, or learn to play the
>> guitar, or even buy an 808 or 909 drum machine...
>> A 303 perhaps?   No.  Those that embrace the new tools
>> are trying to create what has never been done, they
>> are trying to make what, until they do, *couldn't*
>> have been made before.
>> 
>> *That* is the critical difference.
>> 
>> Dale Lawrence


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