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on 10/24/01 8:55 PM, Mike Taylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I guess the one question you are not address is how much control does a > performer have over their music as an indicator of liveness. I think 4 guys > with guitars and each one of them randomly naming a genre and a key to play > before they improvise the music in is a lot more live than say a guy with a > song-based sequencer pressing play. > > It is not a "paradigm shift," it is common sense. The more random > chance/spontainious decision making can play a role in your performance the > more live you are. I think there is something innately more live about a > jazz trio improvising on a standard than there is in a guy pressing play on > a DAT, or the sequencer equivalent. It is not rockist predjudice, it is just > a common sense bench-mark for all musicians. Playback is always less live > than perfomance, and as electronic musicians dealing with midi and sequenced > audio we are somewhere between being truly live and being playback, > depending on the interface a performer chooses to use. > > I have always said that I would rather hear a bunk live act with good songs, > than somebody playing live who doesnt have songs. And as for delivery, it is > just a matter of principle. If you are claiming that you are live, and you > aren't, you are going to be called out. > > > The future of this music is not DJ's, it is post-techno perfomance. > I am going to go as far to say that in 10-15 years techno is finally going > to become the future jazz that it has been promising for years > now. The real future of this music is in played, customizable, interactive > music interfaces. Rather than playing a midi sax, or a keyboard to control > synths, the future will be controller interfaces that are hardware and > software customizable that act as both controllers and sequencers. A live > act will include 2-4 people improvising with non-standard electronic > instruments jamming with some kind of computer based AI music system. > Instead of buying new synths every couple years, you are going to program a > new interface on your control hardware. Instead of playing back pre-recorded > sound or note information, the music will be written and manipulated on the > spot. > > Alan Kurzweil(formerly of Kurzweil Music Systems, inventor of the K250) has > some very interesting insights into the future of music and creativity in > general. If you are interested in ideas about possible futures in electronic > music, his last book "The Age Of Spiritual Machines" is an excellent read. > > Sorry for yet another rant. > > Take care, > Mike > > > >> From: "M Elliot-Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: RE: RE: [313] fuel to the fire : was "hawtin hawtin everywhere" >> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:06:38 +0000 >> >>> That's my point, the reason a lot of electronic music producers do >>> lives is because people are used to go see live artists, and they >expect >>> performing skills. >> >> People, in general, also expect the 'look' of someone performing (ie. >> strumming the strings of a guitar, pressing down on the keys of a synth, >> etc)... it's just a shift in the paradigm that is required. The performers >> have made it (by using laptops and such), it's time the audiences make it. >> But they are always going to be slower than the performers in making the >> switch (or even giving up their expectations of what "live" means). >> If a performer is using a keyboard to play over some prearranged track are >> they playing live anymore? If they spin a record in their "live" set are >> they a DJ or a "live" performer? >> >> Do you like the music? Then what the f~ck does it matter how they go about >> bringing it to you. >> >> Change your paradigm and your ass will follow. >> >> MEK >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]