Techno is one among many influences in the dubstep sound. I would not
call the influence of techno "second hand". Well it's an influence,
not a copy/paste thing. Influences are not supposed to be identical,
mimetic. Are supposed to be "filtered", processed, and, sometimes,
yes, distorted. I don't really know what techno should be. I know
something concerning to what techno was, and is. Because it's surely
more than i know of it.
I don't know if dubstep producers get their techno flavour from
american or european techno. Probabaly from the european (minimal?)
techno and from the uk hardcore techno and rave culture passing on
seamlessly over and over. I don't think they took influences directly
from the roots of detroit techno - most of these producers are kids.
But the techno flavour is there, anyway. Blended in a dub modus
operandi. Just listen to Geiom's "Overnight Biscuits" or to Digital
Mysticz's "Neverland".
Kw
On 28/03/2008, at 22:21, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
In the actual drum n' bass scene, i totally agree with you.
But in dubstep, if you listen closely, putting the formulaic
parachuters aside, you'll find influences of dub (of course) techno,
oriental progressions, jazz, soul, various types of tribal
percussions, dancehall and hip-hop.
to my ears, when i hear the music i dont hear any of that stuff (aside
from the gratuitous "oriental" thing that was popular for a while)
especially compared to when the music was just 2-step.
If what you're really saying is that the majority of style followers
take influences only of that style itself, i agree. It happens in
all
styles, including techno and house.
i feel like you will always have subsets of techno and house music
influenced by disco, jazz, latin music, r+b, etc. and of course they
mix it up, too. in dubstep it seems to be largely trend hopping in its
influences, and they always seem to be more second hand than direct.
for example, all this talk about techno influencing dubstep hasnt
produced much that really sounds like techno in any way. it is like
some distorted idea of what techno should be.
Due to their popularization as club music, the number of generic,
functional and unexpressive tunes we can find, comming from techno
and house areas, are like the number of grains of sand in a beach.
well of course there are tons of nonsense releases in the genres that
have been around for 20 years, i just tend to completely ignore them
;)
tom
