I should say ON Resident Advisor - a 'hipster' site that fetes minimal 

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Subject: RE: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions?

I dunno - KS has just done a pony mix of Resident Advisor 


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Sent: 04 April 2008 15:52
To: Toby Frith; kent williams; list 313
Subject: RE: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions?

yeah but that doesn't necessarily mean they will like derrick may or
kevin saunderson's stuff.
i know i don't like most of it, even though i am a die-hard fan of the
artists you mentioned, as well as of "hip"
minimahl music....

fab


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> The fact that minimal techno is currently seen as "hip"
> can only be a good thing. 
> 
> More and more people are into labels like Chain Reaction, M-Plant and 
> Basic Channel than ever before. That ultimately will lead them back to

> the Detroit originators.
> It takes time, but I know for one that it has transformed the London 
> techno scene.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 April 2008 15:41
> To: list 313
> Subject: Re: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions?
> 
> 
> The one mix I have by Ellen Allien is Fabric 34 and I listen to it a 
> lot -- both straight through and when individual tracks come up on 
> shuffle.
> 
> I think it's high time that we stop using minimal as a dirty word. 
> Minimalism in its broadest sense has been a revolution in music, not 
> so much because it has been revolutionary in content, but because it 
> has demanded a new relationship between the music and the listener.
> The best minimal techno is every bit as dramatic and emotional
> as any other sort of dance music.   The worst is just
> boring.   Worse than that, it's a sort of music that
> appeals and encourages an audience of people completely off their 
> faces on drugs.  Give me something with a little soul and variety 
> anyday!
> 
> It's also to separate the music from the scene, and to realize that 
> slagging on a music/scene when it blows up is as much a hipster 
> transgression as following that trend.
> I was amused last summer walking around Brooklyn 'hipster'
> neighborhood last summer; it seemed like people who, in my shallow 
> evaluation were, in fact, the dreaded hipsters, were modulating their 
> fashion sense and coiffure to avoid the dreaded hipster signifiers.
> 
> Being hip is too exhausting for me.  You'll always be trying to stay 
> ahead of curve, and nothing but eternal vigilance will keep you from 
> staying with something
> formerly cutting edge, now declasse'.   It's like surfing
> -- you want to be in the curl without the wave crashing over you.  I'm

> content to like what I like and let someone else sort it out.
> 
> But I digress.  Ellen Allien is usually pretty ace in my estimation. 
> If one of her mixes sounded a little flat at first, I'd give it a few 
> listens to sink in before dismissing it.
> 
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