Check! Now off to my local...and then checking out Mattias Kaden (is het minimal or techno or both?) tonight;-)
Take care u all... -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 4 april 2008 17:10 Aan: Martijn de Blaauw; Paul Kendrick; Toby Frith; kent williams; list 313 Onderwerp: RE: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions? yes! thank you... mnml comes from, is been inspired by, has evolved from, is influenced by *whatever* by all these so-called minimal originators. most artists, especially the older ones all hail detroit as part of their musical heritage. DBX, CR, DC, R.Hood, T.Dixon, Rhythm&Sound etc.... this isn't dubstep you know fab ----- Original Message ----- Da : "Martijn de Blaauw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A : "Paul Kendrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Toby Frith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "list 313" <313@hyperreal.org> Oggetto : RE: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions? Data : Fri, 4 Apr 2008 17:02:58 +0200 > What gives u the idea that people who listen to villalobos > , Vath, Luciano or even 2000 and one (who's records get > played to death by the minimal posse) don't' listen to > other stuff such as R. Hood? Why is it that u think that > people who give this a listen or go out to night to hear > some stuff like this only listen to it because it's > 'hip'??? > > Just wondering..... > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Paul Kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: vrijdag 4 april 2008 17:02 > Aan: Toby Frith; kent williams; list 313 > Onderwerp: RE: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions? > > Im not sure that the people listening to minimal listen to > CR, Hood, DBX and so on, its all about the current sound > like Craig Richards, Ricardo Villalobos, luciano and these > producers...the people who listen to it because its hip > don't care where its roots are....its only good because > its hip. Next week there be into something else... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 April 2008 15:45 > To: kent williams; list 313 > Subject: RE: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions? > > > The fact that minimal techno is currently seen as "hip" > can only be a good thing. > > More and more people are into labels like Chain Reaction, > M-Plant and Basic Channel than ever before. That > ultimately will lead them back to the Detroit originators. > It takes time, but I know for one that it has transformed > the London techno scene. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 April 2008 15:41 > To: list 313 > Subject: Re: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions? > > > The one mix I have by Ellen Allien is Fabric 34 and I > listen to it a lot -- both straight through and when > individual tracks come up on shuffle. > > I think it's high time that we stop using minimal as a > dirty word. Minimalism in its broadest sense has been a > revolution in music, not so much because it has been > revolutionary in content, but because it has demanded a > new relationship between the music and the listener. The > best minimal techno is every bit as dramatic and emotional > as any other sort of dance music. The worst is just > boring. Worse than that, it's a sort of music that > appeals and encourages an audience of people completely > off their faces on drugs. Give me something with a little > soul and variety anyday! > > It's also to separate the music from the scene, and to > realize that slagging on a music/scene when it blows up is > as much a hipster transgression as following that trend. > I was amused last summer walking around Brooklyn 'hipster' > neighborhood last summer; it seemed like people who, in my > shallow evaluation were, in fact, the dreaded hipsters, > were modulating their fashion sense and coiffure to avoid > the dreaded hipster signifiers. > > Being hip is too exhausting for me. You'll always be > trying to stay ahead of curve, and nothing but eternal > vigilance will keep you from staying with something > formerly cutting edge, now declasse'. It's like surfing > -- you want to be in the curl without the wave crashing > over you. I'm content to like what I like and let someone > else sort it out. > > But I digress. Ellen Allien is usually pretty ace in my > estimation. 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