Im shocked to find Carl Craig #1, but he don't play hood or CR records
in his set, well not for years if he ever did. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 April 2008 15:45
To: kent williams; list 313
Subject: RE: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions?


The fact that minimal techno is currently seen as "hip" can only be a
good thing. 

More and more people are into labels like Chain Reaction, M-Plant and
Basic Channel than ever before. That ultimately will lead them back to
the Detroit originators. It takes time, but I know for one that it has
transformed the London techno scene.





-----Original Message-----
From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 April 2008 15:41
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Ellen Allien's New Mix: Opinions?


The one mix I have by Ellen Allien is Fabric 34 and I listen to it a lot
-- both straight through and when individual tracks come up on shuffle.

I think it's high time that we stop using minimal as a dirty word.
Minimalism in its broadest sense has been a revolution in music, not so
much because it has been revolutionary in content, but because it has
demanded a new relationship between the music and the listener.
The best minimal techno is every bit as dramatic and emotional as any
other sort of dance music.   The worst is just boring.   Worse than
that, it's a sort of music that appeals and encourages an audience of
people completely off their faces on drugs.  Give me something with a
little soul and variety anyday!

It's also to separate the music from the scene, and to realize that
slagging on a music/scene when it blows up is as much a hipster
transgression as following that trend.  I was amused last summer walking
around Brooklyn 'hipster' neighborhood last summer; it seemed like
people who, in my shallow evaluation were, in fact, the dreaded
hipsters, were modulating their fashion sense and coiffure to avoid the
dreaded hipster signifiers.

Being hip is too exhausting for me.  You'll always be trying to stay
ahead of curve, and nothing but eternal vigilance will keep you from
staying with something formerly cutting edge, now declasse'.   It's
like surfing -- you want to be in the curl without the wave crashing
over you.  I'm content to like what I like and let someone else sort it
out.

But I digress.  Ellen Allien is usually pretty ace in my estimation.
If one of her mixes sounded a little flat at first, I'd give it a few
listens to sink in before dismissing it.


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