Tim,
listbox columns etc are saved -- does this include list boxes that are 
dynamically built?
i.e. are simply empty place holders in the designer environment?

Chip

> On Nov 21, 2018, at 7:48 PM, John DeSoi <de...@pgedit.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm happy there is a simpler work-around than finding some obscure 
>> file to delete. But it would be better if 4D just fixed the issue. 
>> If you use multiple monitors and change configurations this is an 
>> ongoing issue. Other Mac applications have no problems, but I'm 
>> often surprised by how 4D windows end up. I try to remember to quit 
>> 4D before unplugging my external monitor because of all the problems.
> 
> I agree John. It would be great if a 4D engineer that has multiple 
> monitors and also a laptop were assigned the task of updating their 
> code to be more defensive about where it opened windows. Checking the 
> window rect to see if it will be fully displayed with the current 
> monitor configuration, making sure windows don’t appear partially 
> offscreen, etc. I’ve been doing this for years in my own “OpenWindow
> ” method and it’s a lot of work, but it can be done. And there are 
> complications to make it work well on both macOS and Windows.
> 
> But I am now abandoning using my OpenWindow method and I’m now using 
> a new method called “OpenFormWindow” that relies on the “save 
> geometry” option so that windows remember where the user positioned 
> them and how they configured listbox columns, splitters, etc. 
> 
> It’s a great 4D feature that you can use by simply checking a 
> checkbox for a form and using the “Open form window” command. They 
> just need to add a bit more polish to it and then we can enjoy using 
> it without these “edge case” problems. I can’t do the work I was 
> doing with my OpenWindow method because now 4D is in full control of 
> where to position a new window. I have to trust them that they will 
> do a good job. Sometimes they let me down. :(
> 
> This secret command key will help my users when this situation 
> occurs. I can now tell them to just hold down the shift key before 
> they select a menu item. 
> 
> Tim
> 
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