At lsub we are doing a bit of work on a db for linux.
To make a long story short, autoconf/automake/xmkmf/whatelse?
made the code so non portable that a particular version of suse is
now necessary to run the thing.

Isn't that the opposite of what auto* was trying to achieve?

I'd just say: say no.

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Patrick Kelly <kameo76...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> >> Agreed wholeheartedly.  Thing is, It's autoconf that needs careful
>> >> redesign:
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>> > I don't see any need for autoconf. As one wise person put it to me,
>> > "things like configure and autoconf just mean you don't know how to
>> > write portable code".
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>> Again, agreed, but reality out there suggests many others are still 
>> believers, no matter how misguided.  We were discussing making
>> available Open Source ports...
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> What your discussing is adding massive complexity. I would prefer to not have 
> the tools and programs, and retain simplicity, rather than add outlandish 
> complexity.
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>> > I still like to point people at plan 9 ports as an example of a
>> > complex system that gets by without this *conf* nonsense.
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>> It falls over just enough to be attacked.  Otherwise, p9p source would have 
>> been ported back to Plan 9 in its entirety.  It's a shame,
>> really, and with some work it could be fixed, but some of that work is 
>> design work.
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>> ++L
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>> PS: I realise that I'm proposing two nearly orthogonal objectives, sorry 
>> that I didn't clarify that sooner.
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