Richard Robinson writes:
| On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 08:47:18PM +0000, John Chambers wrote:
| >
| > The main problem with making such a suggestion is that most
| > of  the  suggestions I've gotten for enhancements have been
| > based on the assumption that I have all the abc sitting  on
| > the disk.  ...  Anything
| > that  requires  searching through the tune collection would
| > take several days.  ...
|
| Just out of interest, how long do you guess it would take to
| actually grab all the ABC you're indexing (and how big would it
| be) ... do it once and it would speed searching through them up.

The search currently takes about 2.5 days.  I don't have  a
good  estimate  of  the total size of all the files (and it
would take me about 2.5 days to find this number ;-).

| The problem of which, apart from resources, is cacheing obsolete
| versions ... maybe a protocol, or convention, or something, for
| grab-an-ABC-*if*-it's-changed, would be useful ?

Actually, that's not difficult.  All web servers return the
modification time of files, whether you ask for it or not.

I suspect that I could actually cache all  the  online  abc
(that I've found so far). There are some interesting things
that could be done with this.

The main reason that I haven't experimented  with  this  is
the  feeling  that  it  would  be overly presumptuous.  The
online abc sites are somewhat personal collections,  and  I
think the diversity is rather a good thing. The interesting
thing to do with it, in my  mind,  is  to  experiment  with
accessing  the  abc web sites as they are, in whatever form
their owners may keep  them.   And  I've  often  encouraged
people to experiment with their site's layout. Gathering it
all onto one machine is  the  way  that  people  have  done
things  for decades.  But working with things on the Net as
they are is  a  somewhat  new  thing,  and  interesting  to
experiment with.

There's also the "personal" issue.  Many of the online  abc
collections are clearly very personal collections.  Some of
them (such as Jerry Holland's  site)  are  new  music  that
really shouldn't be copied as a whole without permission.

It's true that google caches much of the  web,  and  nobody
much complains (except for the Scientologists ;-). But they
don't actually *do* anything with their cached pages.  It's
just a form of backup (and only lasts for a few months).

But then, some abc sites have disappeared.  In a few cases,
I do wish I'd nabbed a copy first.

But I think I'll keep working mainly on finding  things  to
do  with  online  abc where it is, and let others deal with
copying it all to their disks.  Trying to actually use  the
Net  as  a  live, interconnected system is more interesting
than downloading everything and working off a local disk.

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