We are criticising the system but are not giving alternate solutions. If Braille is not desirable to locate births, compartments etc, what is the better solution?
Exciting Offers to Grab Vedprakash Sharma -----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of li...@srinivasu.org Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 9:28 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi Manish, in general, I agree. But... Would you be comfortable touching seats in a train compartment. How would you know if there is no one seated? Secondly, it is usual that cleanliness in our railway stations is poor. Would you be comfortable touching a dirty wall? It's also true that there would be baggage or other goods anywhere, what's the guarantee that you don't bump into them? Installing Braille signages involves huge investment. Unless Railways ensure practical usage, the investment go waste. Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C > On 30-Jan-2016, at 08:02, Manish Agrawal <manis...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I agree. Braille signage in public places is good. > Why do people believe it is a bad idea? And what is a better alternative? > > Regards, > Manish > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf Of sanjay > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 1:04 AM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the > disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs > Between Mysuru, Varanasi > > Blind organisations can think only from their perspective. either > government or true representatives of disability sector as a whole > cannot have such a narrow perspective. Whether you like it or not, > for deaf-blind persons braille is the best option. Those who think > having braille symbols in public places is not a solution should do > their homework again. Any disability organisation which might have > advocated braille in public places have done so, considering the needs > of all disability categories. Let there be braille and audio. We > soil our hands while reading braille symbols not because of braille but > because of uncivilised behaviour of our people. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tilakprasad Joshi" <tilakjoshi1...@gmail.com> > To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:34 PM > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between > Mysuru,Varanasi > > >> I don't see any wrong by having Braille Signage and I feel Braille >> has to be there with other alternative, it is up to the person what >> he/she prefers, there is nothing wrong suggesting Braille as an option. >> >> Warm Regards, >> Tilak. >> >>> On 1/27/16, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote: >>> We all know who the Govt consults! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani >>> Sent: 27 January 2016 21:11 >>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning the disabled.' >>> Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between >>> Mysuru, Varanasi >>> >>> I had the pleasure of telling the railway Board Chairman that >>> Braille was a bad idea in compartments and on the train when I met >>> him at the NCDEPD meeting in December in Delhi. He turned around and >>> told me that it had been recommended by one of our groups and it had >>> come as a suggestion from our sector and that they would not have >>> done it without consulting with the Visually Impaired. >>> So which Delhi based organisation wants to claim the credit for this >>> accessibility stunt? >>> Let someone have the guts to own up to this. >>> Kanchan >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf Of George Abraham >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:25 PM >>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning the disabled.' >>> Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between >>> Mysuru, Varanasi >>> >>> Brailee is very in books and on paper. In public spaces Braille is a >>> very bad idea. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf Of li...@srinivasu.org >>> Sent: 27 January 2016 19:22 >>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning the disabled. >>> Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between >>> Mysuru, Varanasi >>> >>> With due respect, I think this is not really helpful. Article does >>> not talk about any feature other than Braille signage. >>> >>> Does railways guarantee the cleanliness of train? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C >>> >>>> On 27-Jan-2016, at 16:25, Monica Eyeway <mon...@eyeway.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> The New Indian Express >>>> >>>> MYSURU: The visually challenged-friendly Mysuru railway station has >>>> now added one more feather in its cap. >>>> >>>> The country’s first visually challenged-friendly train runs between >>>> it and Varanasi. >>>> >>>> The bi-weekly train in fitted with metal Braille signage to help >>>> the visually challenged locate coaches, seats, alarm chains, >>>> toilets and emergency windows. >>>> >>>> The Mysuru division of the South Western Railway wants to extend >>>> the facility to Mysuru-Talaguppa, Mysuru-Tirupati, Mysore >>>> -Mayilatuthurai Express trains before March end. >>>> >>>> Divisional Railway Manager Rajkumar Lal said the introduction of >>>> Braille signage in coaches is in line with his concern for the >>>> visually challenged. >>>> >>>> “I can see many of the visually challenged struggle and ask people >>>> for directions to ticket counters, platforms, railway coaches and >>>> seats”, he said. Lal said it took Rs 2 lakh and two months to get >>>> the train fitted with Braille signage by a Bengaluru-based company. >>>> >>>> “I will see that this is done (in three other trains) before >>>> March-end using Member of Parliament Local Area Development Fund’, he said. >>>> >>>> Mohan, a visually challenged person, lauded the railways for the >>>> measure. >>>> >>>> He said one can travel in the train alone without assistance from >>>> others and hoped that it would be implemented in all trains in the country. >>>> >>>> The Mysuru railway station had recently installed navigation maps >>>> in Braille to guide the visually impaired to reach platforms. >>>> >>>> *Terminal at Kadakola* >>>> >>>> SWR Divisional Manager Rajkumar Lal said a proposal has been sent >>>> to establish a terminal with six platforms near Kadakola between >>>> Mysuru and Nanjangud at a cost of Rs 67 crore. >>>> >>>> He said a terminal at Kengeri would also help run a few more trains >>>> between Bengaluru and Mysuru. >>>> >>>> The railway division has also sought one more train between Mysuru >>>> and Tirupati and two more express trains between Mysuru and >>>> Benglauru that would run 30 minutes behind Chamundi Express. >>>> >>>> http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/karnataka/Indias-1st-Blind-f >>>> riendly-Train-Runs-Between-Mysuru-Varanasi/2016/01/26/article324564 >>>> 8.ece >>>> >>>> *What is new* >>>> >>>> - Mysuru-Varansi train is the first completely visually >>>> challenged-friendly in the country >>>> - Metal Braille signage installed to help locate berth numbers, >>>> toilets and emergency doors >>>> - Three more trains likely to have similar facilities before March >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Its highly commendable that the government bodies and policy >>>> makers are thinking inclusive by putting up braille signages in the >>>> train and the Railway Station. While we appreciate the thought and >>>> effort, we need to think is it actually a solution that the >>>> visually impaired citizens of the country would benefit from ? >>>> Please share your views on the same.* >>>> >>>> *Meanwhile, here is what Mr. George Abraham has to say on this >>>> initiative. >>>> * >>>> >>>> *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3kuEK6zvgE >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3kuEK6zvgE>* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Monica Verma >>>> Communications Officer >>>> Score Foundation >>>> >>>> Website: www.eyeway.org www.scorefoundation.org.in >>>> Eyeway Helpdesk: 1800-300-20469 >>>> >>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/projecteyeway/ >>>> >>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>> accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_ >>>> accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>> changes, please visit the list home page at >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia. >>>> org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Disclaimer: >>>> 1. 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