As many folks mentioned, audio announcements and human assistance would help.
Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C > On 31-Jan-2016, at 15:03, Vedprakash Sharma <vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > We are criticising the system but are not giving alternate solutions. > If Braille is not desirable to locate births, compartments etc, what is the > better solution? > > Exciting Offers to Grab Vedprakash Sharma > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of li...@srinivasu.org > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 9:28 AM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between > Mysuru, Varanasi > > Manish, in general, I agree. But... > > Would you be comfortable touching seats in a train compartment. How would you > know if there is no one seated? > Secondly, it is usual that cleanliness in our railway stations is poor. Would > you be comfortable touching a dirty wall? > > It's also true that there would be baggage or other goods anywhere, what's > the guarantee that you don't bump into them? > > Installing Braille signages involves huge investment. Unless Railways ensure > practical usage, the investment go waste. > > Regards, > Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu > Sent from my iPhone 5C > >> On 30-Jan-2016, at 08:02, Manish Agrawal <manis...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I agree. Braille signage in public places is good. >> Why do people believe it is a bad idea? And what is a better alternative? >> >> Regards, >> Manish >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf Of sanjay >> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 1:04 AM >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning >> the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs >> Between Mysuru, Varanasi >> >> Blind organisations can think only from their perspective. either >> government or true representatives of disability sector as a whole >> cannot have such a narrow perspective. Whether you like it or not, >> for deaf-blind persons braille is the best option. Those who think >> having braille symbols in public places is not a solution should do >> their homework again. Any disability organisation which might have >> advocated braille in public places have done so, considering the needs >> of all disability categories. Let there be braille and audio. We >> soil our hands while reading braille symbols not because of braille but >> because of uncivilised behaviour of our people. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tilakprasad Joshi" <tilakjoshi1...@gmail.com> >> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:34 PM >> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between >> Mysuru,Varanasi >> >> >>> I don't see any wrong by having Braille Signage and I feel Braille >>> has to be there with other alternative, it is up to the person what >>> he/she prefers, there is nothing wrong suggesting Braille as an option. >>> >>> Warm Regards, >>> Tilak. >>> >>>> On 1/27/16, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote: >>>> We all know who the Govt consults! >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>>> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani >>>> Sent: 27 January 2016 21:11 >>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>> concerning the disabled.' >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between >>>> Mysuru, Varanasi >>>> >>>> I had the pleasure of telling the railway Board Chairman that >>>> Braille was a bad idea in compartments and on the train when I met >>>> him at the NCDEPD meeting in December in Delhi. He turned around and >>>> told me that it had been recommended by one of our groups and it had >>>> come as a suggestion from our sector and that they would not have >>>> done it without consulting with the Visually Impaired. >>>> So which Delhi based organisation wants to claim the credit for this >>>> accessibility stunt? >>>> Let someone have the guts to own up to this. >>>> Kanchan >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>>> Behalf Of George Abraham >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:25 PM >>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>> concerning the disabled.' >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between >>>> Mysuru, Varanasi >>>> >>>> Brailee is very in books and on paper. In public spaces Braille is a >>>> very bad idea. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>>> Behalf Of li...@srinivasu.org >>>> Sent: 27 January 2016 19:22 >>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>> concerning the disabled. >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between >>>> Mysuru, Varanasi >>>> >>>> With due respect, I think this is not really helpful. Article does >>>> not talk about any feature other than Braille signage. >>>> >>>> Does railways guarantee the cleanliness of train? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C >>>> >>>>> On 27-Jan-2016, at 16:25, Monica Eyeway <mon...@eyeway.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The New Indian Express >>>>> >>>>> MYSURU: The visually challenged-friendly Mysuru railway station has >>>>> now added one more feather in its cap. >>>>> >>>>> The country’s first visually challenged-friendly train runs between >>>>> it and Varanasi. >>>>> >>>>> The bi-weekly train in fitted with metal Braille signage to help >>>>> the visually challenged locate coaches, seats, alarm chains, >>>>> toilets and emergency windows. >>>>> >>>>> The Mysuru division of the South Western Railway wants to extend >>>>> the facility to Mysuru-Talaguppa, Mysuru-Tirupati, Mysore >>>>> -Mayilatuthurai Express trains before March end. >>>>> >>>>> Divisional Railway Manager Rajkumar Lal said the introduction of >>>>> Braille signage in coaches is in line with his concern for the >>>>> visually challenged. >>>>> >>>>> “I can see many of the visually challenged struggle and ask people >>>>> for directions to ticket counters, platforms, railway coaches and >>>>> seats”, he said. Lal said it took Rs 2 lakh and two months to get >>>>> the train fitted with Braille signage by a Bengaluru-based company. >>>>> >>>>> “I will see that this is done (in three other trains) before >>>>> March-end using Member of Parliament Local Area Development Fund’, he >>>>> said. >>>>> >>>>> Mohan, a visually challenged person, lauded the railways for the >>>>> measure. >>>>> >>>>> He said one can travel in the train alone without assistance from >>>>> others and hoped that it would be implemented in all trains in the >>>>> country. >>>>> >>>>> The Mysuru railway station had recently installed navigation maps >>>>> in Braille to guide the visually impaired to reach platforms. >>>>> >>>>> *Terminal at Kadakola* >>>>> >>>>> SWR Divisional Manager Rajkumar Lal said a proposal has been sent >>>>> to establish a terminal with six platforms near Kadakola between >>>>> Mysuru and Nanjangud at a cost of Rs 67 crore. >>>>> >>>>> He said a terminal at Kengeri would also help run a few more trains >>>>> between Bengaluru and Mysuru. >>>>> >>>>> The railway division has also sought one more train between Mysuru >>>>> and Tirupati and two more express trains between Mysuru and >>>>> Benglauru that would run 30 minutes behind Chamundi Express. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/karnataka/Indias-1st-Blind-f >>>>> riendly-Train-Runs-Between-Mysuru-Varanasi/2016/01/26/article324564 >>>>> 8.ece >>>>> >>>>> *What is new* >>>>> >>>>> - Mysuru-Varansi train is the first completely visually >>>>> challenged-friendly in the country >>>>> - Metal Braille signage installed to help locate berth numbers, >>>>> toilets and emergency doors >>>>> - Three more trains likely to have similar facilities before March >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Its highly commendable that the government bodies and policy >>>>> makers are thinking inclusive by putting up braille signages in the >>>>> train and the Railway Station. While we appreciate the thought and >>>>> effort, we need to think is it actually a solution that the >>>>> visually impaired citizens of the country would benefit from ? >>>>> Please share your views on the same.* >>>>> >>>>> *Meanwhile, here is what Mr. George Abraham has to say on this >>>>> initiative. >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3kuEK6zvgE >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3kuEK6zvgE>* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Monica Verma >>>>> Communications Officer >>>>> Score Foundation >>>>> >>>>> Website: www.eyeway.org www.scorefoundation.org.in >>>>> Eyeway Helpdesk: 1800-300-20469 >>>>> >>>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/projecteyeway/ >>>>> >>>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>> accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_ >>>>> accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>> changes, please visit the list home page at >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia. >>>>> org.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>> 1. 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