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On 1/31/16, Vedprakash Sharma <vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It cannot.
> We cannot find the desired seat number through audio announcement.
> Neither can we locate the toilets etc through audio signals.
> If my coach Number is S3 and seat number is 36, I cannot find it by audio
> announcements.
> I have either to ask for someone's assistance or have to touch the
> designated braille signage.
> If there is another alternative, please do tell.
>
> Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: li...@srinivasu.org [mailto:li...@srinivasu.org]
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:44 PM
> To: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
> accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between
> Mysuru, Varanasi
>
> As many folks mentioned, audio  announcements and human assistance would
> help.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
> Sent from my iPhone 5C
>
>> On 31-Jan-2016, at 15:03, Vedprakash Sharma <vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> We are criticising the system but are not giving alternate solutions.
>> If Braille is not desirable to locate births, compartments etc, what is
>> the better solution?
>>
>> Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of li...@srinivasu.org
>> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 9:28 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs
>> Between Mysuru, Varanasi
>>
>> Manish, in general, I agree. But...
>>
>> Would you be comfortable touching seats in a train compartment. How would
>> you know if there is no one seated?
>> Secondly, it is usual that cleanliness in our railway stations is poor.
>> Would you be comfortable touching a dirty wall?
>>
>> It's also true that there would be baggage or other goods anywhere, what's
>> the guarantee that you don't bump into them?
>>
>> Installing Braille signages involves huge investment. Unless Railways
>> ensure practical usage, the investment go waste.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C
>>
>>> On 30-Jan-2016, at 08:02, Manish Agrawal <manis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree. Braille signage in public places is good.
>>> Why do people believe it is a bad idea? And what is a better alternative?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Manish
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of sanjay
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 1:04 AM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs
>>> Between Mysuru, Varanasi
>>>
>>> Blind organisations can think only from their perspective.  either
>>> government or true representatives of disability sector as a whole
>>> cannot have such a narrow perspective.  Whether you like it or not,
>>> for deaf-blind persons braille is the best option.  Those who think
>>> having braille symbols in public places is not a solution should do
>>> their homework again.  Any disability organisation which might have
>>> advocated braille in public places have done so, considering the
>>> needs of all disability categories.  Let there be braille and audio.
>>> We soil our hands while reading braille symbols not because of braille
>>> but because of uncivilised behaviour of our people.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tilakprasad Joshi" <tilakjoshi1...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:34 PM
>>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs
>>> Between Mysuru,Varanasi
>>>
>>>
>>>> I don't see any wrong by having Braille Signage and I feel Braille
>>>> has to be there with other alternative, it is up to the person what
>>>> he/she prefers, there is nothing wrong suggesting Braille as an option.
>>>>
>>>> Warm Regards,
>>>> Tilak.
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/27/16, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
>>>>> We all know who the Govt consults!
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
>>>>> Sent: 27 January 2016 21:11
>>>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerning the disabled.'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between
>>>>> Mysuru, Varanasi
>>>>>
>>>>> I had the pleasure of telling the railway Board Chairman that
>>>>> Braille was a bad idea in compartments and on the train when I met
>>>>> him at the NCDEPD meeting in December in Delhi. He turned around
>>>>> and told me that it had been recommended by one of our groups and
>>>>> it had come as a suggestion from our sector and that they would not
>>>>> have done it without consulting  with the Visually Impaired.
>>>>> So which Delhi based organisation wants to claim the credit for
>>>>> this accessibility stunt?
>>>>> Let someone have the guts to own up to this.
>>>>> Kanchan
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
>>>>> On Behalf Of George Abraham
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:25 PM
>>>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerning the disabled.'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between
>>>>> Mysuru, Varanasi
>>>>>
>>>>> Brailee is very in books and on paper. In public spaces Braille is
>>>>> a very bad idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
>>>>> On Behalf Of li...@srinivasu.org
>>>>> Sent: 27 January 2016 19:22
>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerning the disabled.
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between
>>>>> Mysuru, Varanasi
>>>>>
>>>>> With due respect, I think this is not really helpful. Article does
>>>>> not talk about any feature other than Braille signage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does railways guarantee the cleanliness of train?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27-Jan-2016, at 16:25, Monica Eyeway <mon...@eyeway.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The New Indian Express
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MYSURU: The visually challenged-friendly Mysuru railway station
>>>>>> has now added one more feather in its cap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The country’s first visually challenged-friendly train runs
>>>>>> between it and Varanasi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The bi-weekly train in fitted with metal Braille signage to help
>>>>>> the visually challenged locate coaches, seats, alarm chains,
>>>>>> toilets and emergency windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Mysuru division of the South Western Railway wants to extend
>>>>>> the facility to Mysuru-Talaguppa, Mysuru-Tirupati, Mysore
>>>>>> -Mayilatuthurai Express trains before March end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Divisional Railway Manager Rajkumar Lal said the introduction of
>>>>>> Braille signage in coaches is in line with his concern for the
>>>>>> visually challenged.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “I can see many of the visually challenged struggle and ask people
>>>>>> for directions to ticket counters, platforms, railway coaches and
>>>>>> seats”, he said. Lal said it took Rs 2 lakh and two months to get
>>>>>> the train fitted with Braille signage by a Bengaluru-based company.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “I will see that this is done (in three other trains) before
>>>>>> March-end using Member of Parliament Local Area Development Fund’, he
>>>>>> said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mohan, a visually challenged person, lauded the railways for the
>>>>>> measure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He said one can travel in the train alone without assistance from
>>>>>> others and hoped that it would be implemented in all trains in the
>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Mysuru railway station had recently installed navigation maps
>>>>>> in Braille to guide the visually impaired to reach platforms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Terminal at Kadakola*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SWR Divisional Manager Rajkumar Lal said a proposal has been sent
>>>>>> to establish a terminal with six platforms near Kadakola between
>>>>>> Mysuru and Nanjangud at a cost of Rs 67 crore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He said a terminal at Kengeri would also help run a few more
>>>>>> trains between Bengaluru and Mysuru.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The railway division has also sought one more train between Mysuru
>>>>>> and Tirupati and two more express trains between Mysuru and
>>>>>> Benglauru that would run 30 minutes behind Chamundi Express.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/karnataka/Indias-1st-Blind-
>>>>>> f
>>>>>> riendly-Train-Runs-Between-Mysuru-Varanasi/2016/01/26/article32456
>>>>>> 4
>>>>>> 8.ece
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *What is new*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -   Mysuru-Varansi train is the first completely visually
>>>>>> challenged-friendly in the country
>>>>>> -   Metal Braille signage installed to help locate berth numbers,
>>>>>> toilets and emergency doors
>>>>>> -   Three more trains likely to have similar facilities before March
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Its highly commendable that the government bodies and policy
>>>>>> makers are thinking inclusive by putting up braille signages in
>>>>>> the train and the Railway Station. While we appreciate the thought
>>>>>> and effort, we need to think is it actually a solution that the
>>>>>> visually impaired citizens of the country would benefit from ?
>>>>>> Please share your views on the same.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Meanwhile, here is what Mr. George Abraham has to say on this
>>>>>> initiative.
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3kuEK6zvgE
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3kuEK6zvgE>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Monica Verma
>>>>>> Communications Officer
>>>>>> Score Foundation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Website: www.eyeway.org   www.scorefoundation.org.in
>>>>>> Eyeway Helpdesk: 1800-300-20469
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/projecteyeway/
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