HI Sudeshna Bhattacharya it was a good discussion. very neatly concluded all the points. dear friends. if the minimam qualification for a scribe is matriculation. what is the criteria for a VI candidate who is appearing for SSC board exam which is equivalent to matriculation in AP? nead your suggestions and inputs on this point.
Thank you all in advance. Shivasuresh On 6/27/18, Srinivasu Chakravarthula <li...@srinivasu.org> wrote: > George, > I think it was used to illustrate the scenario. Well, firstly PhD candidate > shouldn't be applying to compete for a clerk post. Overall point is if > scribe qualification is slightly less than what the job is needed should be > enough. If at all that less qualification is a mandate. > > Regards, > > Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/ > Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com > > Let's create an inclusive web! > > Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 6:41 PM, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote: > >> Just would like to point out that the caliber of a Ph.D is definitely >> higher than a 12th passed. Insisting on the Ph.D to use a 11th passed >> scribe might be a disservice to him. A point to ponder! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf Of Kotian, H P >> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 2:44 PM >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning >> the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> Hi >> If I understand the scenario correct for example the post is for a clerk >> for which the minimum qualification is HSC, there are 2 candidates one a >> post graduate and another a HSC. The qualification to consider for the job >> is HSC and not the qualification of the candidate. >> Therefore the qualification for a scribe should not be HSC passed in this >> case. >> >> I am aware the minimum qualification for clerk is no more HSC. Mentioned >> it for illustration purpose. >> >> Harish. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf Of Shweta Mishra >> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:51 PM >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning >> the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> hi friends! >> it means, scribe criteria will be different for for candidates with >> different qualification. >> for example, a post graduate and a twelfth passed candidate is appearing >> for the same competitive exam, then what will be scribe criteria for both >> candidates? >> if a post graduate candidate will bring graduate scribe, then won't it be >> injustice to the twelfth passed candidate? because twelfth passed >> candidate >> will be allowed to bring maximum eleventh passed scribe. >> >> On 6/26/18, Lyngdoh <cornelyng...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean >> > what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the >> > past I have always looked for graduates. >> > >> > On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote: >> >> Congrats! >> >> Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in >> >> qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and >> >> meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. >> >> >> >> At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. >> >> Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. >> >> >> >> >> >> सादर / With thanks & Regards >> >> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani >> >> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM >> >> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU >> >> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur >> >> >> >> 0712 2806846 >> >> >> >> President >> >> VIBEWA >> >> Co-Moderator >> >> VIB-India >> >> >> >> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and >> >> laughter. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> >> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani >> >> Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 >> >> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> >> concerning the disabled.' >> >> Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> >> >> Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already >> >> heard what happened but let me explain a few issues >> >> >> >> 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of >> >> scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and >> >> definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. >> >> >> >> 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem >> because >> >> no one really implemented the guidelines. >> >> >> >> 3. Then the penny dropped-U PS C and others started saying that >> >> these >> >> guidelines were unfair. >> >> >> >> 4. Some of our own VI candidates decided that these guidelines >> gave >> >> them the right to have overqualified or should I say coached writers. >> >> >> >> 5. Our other VI who suffered because of the special writers >> >> complained >> >> to U P S C and to the Courts-Bombay and Eranakulam I am told. >> >> >> >> 6. Then the Government set up our committee. We met about 3 times >> >> but >> >> could not agree so the MSJE set up a sub-committee. >> >> >> >> 7. This subcommittee gave a report which we had to discuss at >> >> this >> >> meeting on 20th June. >> >> >> >> 8. I had shared the sub-committee's report and the comments of U >> PS >> >> C >> >> and SSC. >> >> >> >> 9. Our meeting started an hour and half late because the >> >> Secretary >> >> had >> >> gone to meet the Minister. >> >> >> >> 10. Before she came in the other committee members gave theiropinion >> on >> >> the subcommittees report. Only Mr. Rungta and I were left to give our >> >> comments when the Secretary arrived and we started the formal meeting. >> >> >> >> 11. It was quite a hot debate. >> >> >> >> 12. The problem with govt agencies is that they don't send the same >> >> person >> >> to the followup meetings. This includes U P S C and our own NIVH. >> >> This hampers progressive discussion and we cannot pin the >> representative down. >> >> >> >> 13. There was no problem with compensatory time etc. The >> recommendations >> >> of the Sub-committee were accepted. >> >> >> >> 14. So what have we won or should I say retained-the first right of >> the >> >> candidate to choose his scribe. If not available then the Examining >> >> body can provide not less than a matriculate. >> >> >> >> 15. Further you can meet your scribe 2 days in advance. >> >> >> >> 16. Some other devices etc for other disabilities that can be >> >> used.Our >> >> committee added to Sub committee recommendations. This added to the >> >> original guidelines. >> >> >> >> 17. The only problem with the subcommittee's suggestion is that they >> >> are >> >> not allowing you to use your own laptop. I however feel that this >> >> should not be in the guidelines. I know atleast 2 members on this >> >> list who have used their own laptops and didn't have a problem after >> >> explanations. This may be considered to be a loss and squarely >> >> attributable to the subcommittee. >> >> >> >> 18. Now the loss that will bother us some day-the scribe has to be >> less >> >> in >> >> qualification than the candidate. >> >> >> >> 19. So this guideline has got nothing to do with the exam but only >> with >> >> the candidate. Keeping in mind that the minimum educational >> >> qualification for a scribe is matriculation. This does not sound too >> >> bad but ground realities will tell. >> >> >> >> 20. So the meeting ended about three and half hours later with 2 cups >> of >> >> tea and 4 biscuits thrown in. The Secretary will have to report to >> >> the courts. >> >> >> >> 21. The fact that we have the right to choose our own scribe is going >> to >> >> be debated over and over again until we stop the malpractises and >> >> each of you reading my email or whatsapp need to take care of the >> >> situation. You are responsible for what lies ahead. I know the >> >> argument about supervision. >> >> >> >> 22. It is not an easy task to take the whole room on by just 2 >> >> people. >> >> We >> >> did it because you gave us strength. We were prepared and many weren't. >> >> However it has taken lots of persuasion, anger, raised voices and a >> >> lot of diplomacy. >> >> >> >> 23. What will let us down is the continuous use of professional >> >> scribes. >> >> >> >> >> >> 24. Please help by giving me the reference to the Bombay High Court >> and >> >> Eranakulam cases. We will have to intervene. >> >> >> >> 25. Thanks to each of you who respond to my urgent requests and give >> >> your >> >> input on these crucial issues. >> >> >> >> 26. It has been 12 years battling this menace. I wish I dint have to >> >> face >> >> a meetingwhere I am told that my people are cheating. 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