hello mr. Amar Jain. the major accessibility challenge with PDF is the accessibility of those documents which are made from images. other things I feel are smaller issues and do not trouble much.
On 9/7/19, Narendra Sathe <sathe.naren...@gmail.com> wrote: > I feel that the following issues relating with inaccessibility of PDF > documents > 1) There are some PDF documents which JAWS fails to read and in case > of such PDF documents JAWS just announces as empty document. You then > need to sit and convert these PDF documents using ocr to make them > accessible. > > 2)Even In case of PDF documents which are accessible with JAWS, > Navigating through such documents is also a very difficult task and > this must be simplified and made easy. > > 3) Even In case of PDF documents which are accessible with > JAWSSearching through such PDF documents using the find option is also > not easy. > > 4) Efforts be made to make PDF documents as user friendly with JAWS as > word documents. > > Regards > Narendra > > > > > > On 9/7/19, Himanshu Sahu <sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com> wrote: >> IN addition to the clubbing of more than one words together, often >> after every alphabet of a word, there is space given, or may be it is >> not there, but JAWS reads it like... >> >> >> On 9/6/19, Kotian, H P <hpkot...@rbi.org.in> wrote: >>> Hi Amar >>> In addition to those issues pointed below, In many PDF files I have >>> found >>> text joined together. The screen reader makes some effort to speak it >>> out >>> but it sounds gibberish. >>> To summarize the points >>> 1 It should be Unicode compliant >>> 2 Any protection applied like print disabled etc. may continue to have >>> the >>> restrictions but the text should be available to screen readers. >>> 3 Image PDF files should have OCR to convert into text and the OCR >>> engines >>> should be having Indian languages as well. >>> 4 In a save as text option there should be RTF format by which the >>> formatting of the document is preserved. >>> 5 Forms should be accessible by screen readers. >>> 6 Arbitrary string concatenation issue should be addressed. >>> 7 Under edit menu to add to select the table. This can help in copying a >>> table. >>> 8 In accessibility selection dialog box the start button does not have a >>> keyboard access key. That should be added. Sometimes I have found the >>> tab >>> does not go to it. >>> 9 Sometimes when using a browser, the PDF file opens inside the browser >>> Here >>> the OCR functionality provided by screen reader too does not work. It is >>> very difficult to read that document. The user is forced to save the >>> document first and read it later on. The suggestion is when screen >>> reader >>> is >>> active the document should open in the stand alone Acrobat reader and >>> not >>> in >>> the browser. >>> >>> Thanks Amar to take this up. >>> Harish. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Rohit Trivedi >>> Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 6:32 AM >>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning >>> the disabled. >>> Subject: Re: [AI] List down your accessibility issues with PDFs >>> >>> Dear amar, >>> >>> When ever accessibility features are enabled in Adobe there should be a >>> feature to have OCR facility available particularly when it is an image >>> file. This will eliminate the cumbersome task of using third party >>> software >>> for conversion of image file and files made with non-unicode /ttf fonts >>> in >>> languages like hindi into a text file. Some thing that apps like ID or >>> Envision are doing in phone. >>> >>> Rohit >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: AccessIndia <accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in> on behalf of >>> Sandeep Singh <sandeepsingh...@gmail.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 8:59:59 PM >>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning >>> the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Subject: Re: [AI] List down your accessibility issues with PDFs >>> >>> I don't know if this problem is universal or not, but I find it >>> difficult >>> to >>> read Hindi PDF files. I can easily read the same text in Word file. >>> >>> On 9/5/19, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Another major issue is same pdf file opening with old version of adobe >>>> acrobat reader but can't be opened with acrobat reader dc. >>>> >>>> On Thu, 5 Sep 2019, 6:59 p.m. Vedprakash Sharma, < >>>> vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The most obvious problem arises when the pdf file is password >>>>> protected and one can read the file but cannot modify. In such cases, >>>>> unless one knows the password, there is no solution. Bank statements, >>>>> creditcard bills etc come in this form. >>>>> Second problem arises when some takes photo of some written pages and >>>>> saves the image in pdf form. In such cases, Jaws command >>>>> "insert+space +O W" is very helpful but it is not the solution. >>>>> Third major problem is related to scanning. While scanning a >>>>> document, various unnecessary characters hamper the reading the >>>>> document. >>>>> Especially, >>>>> CBSE books display the title of the chapter on every page. Hence, >>>>> when we give a read all command, each page begins with the chapter >>>>> name. some times, this chapter name comes in between a sentence, >>>>> resulting in misleading meanings. >>>>> While reading maths and science books, tables and charts are not >>>>> properly read. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>>>> Behalf Of Amar Jain >>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2019 7:56 AM >>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>> Subject: [AI] List down your accessibility issues with PDFs >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Considering the pain of blind professionals and students, some of us >>>>> have decided to work with Adobe and Vispero to find out ways in which >>>>> PDFs can be made better for people with blindness. And I am doing >>>>> everything possible to get this to Shantanu's (CEO of Adobe) >>>>> attention, so that the bottlenecks between business, legal, >>>>> compliance and development can be adressed. The good thing is that >>>>> the head of accessibility at Adobe and Vispero have been very >>>>> receptive. >>>>> >>>>> While the major problem of inaccessibility of PDF is because a lot of >>>>> things are dependent on authors for ensuring accessibility, but this >>>>> approach itself needs a relook. 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