dear list members ms Amena has put most of points which I was thinking to put forward
now let me come back to my cases which I have sent few days back for 1st case what we can do * the center and exam taking organization should provide scribe from there side and for this that should contact some NGO'S, and those who really want to help. the NGO should make sure that the candidate and scribe should be comfortable with each other, the NGO and Exam conducting organization may do a mock test and make sure the scribe should not share any contact info with candidate. now a days lots of college going students want to help pwd's so you may take scribe from colleges to. note who can use PC for there exam shouldn't given this option or surprise scribe should be given for example in my mba Exam we are provided with scribe on the day of exam and both scribe and candidate don't know that who will going to pare with whom so scope of cheating is 90% finished now we also have to take care offew things * if scribe is on his/her athics * if scribe is good in English speaking * and are that well payed by govd so that that may don't use ethics for few bucks now for 2nd case * proeer PC should be sent in examination center * the paper and grafshould be make axcessable for pwds i.e. maths questions should be provide with audio question grafs should have ault text or text based questions 8* software should not proctore screen reader and apart of exam test all IP should be blocked * a proper it team should be placed and they should keep track on all the network IP traffic note alone human or alone Technology can't make change. both should go hend in hend if you want to talk more on this issue with me please CLICK HERE FOR WHATSAPP CHAT <https://wa.me/919462942428> thanks regards ishan jain CO-Founder of EscaFate <http://escafate.com> student of IIM Indore ALUMNI of KIRORI MAL COLLEGE <http://KMC.DU.AC.IN>UNIVERSITY OF DELHI <http://DU.AC.IN> On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 1:41 PM anirudh rao <personalanir...@gmail.com> wrote: > hi Vivek, > being myself in the education sector, I think the first step for any > improvement is to have a robust system of education. > it is always better to have introduced to various matters like > mathematics and computers in the school levels than getting introduced > in the employment. > infact, we are provided the employment on the basis of these skills > and not on the ground of just disability. > we cannot blame the government and the banks for these but, our own so > called special schools. > by the way I am from Shimoga too! > > On 8/29/22, vivek doddamani <vivekka...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Friends, I was silent on this topic till now, because in 2018 I had > > raised this issue in this group that many VI candidates are entering > > bankin sector without any knowledge of english & Computer through back > > door then many members of this group suggested me to keep quiet, here > > many of them are talking about computer & modern technology I would > > like to ask them in Delhi that is capital of India many Visually > > impaired officials are working in Central government & delhi > > government offices & schools in those officials how many of them have > > at least knowledge of computers and modern technology like scanner, > > recorder etcetra I can assure here 75% of those officials do not have > > proper knowledge of computer, even bank employees here in Delhi > > working as POs & assistant managers do not have basic knowledge of > > computers, they are forced to sit in enquiries & for issuing forms, > > neither government offices are banks are interested in training these > > employees in computer knowledge or assistant technology then how can > > you dream of school level computer education. I come from small town > > in karnataka shimoga there also many schools for blind do not have > > proper computer technology, neither school authorities nor government > > is interested to introduce computer in schools, the only thing is to > > depend on scribes and forgery will continue nobody can stop. > > > > On 8/26/22, Muhammad Mishbahul <mishbahu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What we can learn from the advance societies Is that no howsoever > >> advance > >> technological intervention can substitute the assistance which a human > >> provides to a person with blindness. we have numerous examples in front > >> of > >> us like renowned author wed mehta Who has written many novels > >> autobiographies and historical accounts with the assistance of an > >> amanuensis. which is why, I still strongly feels that the only logical > >> and > >> rational way out to nip the bud of malpractices in exams is Two have a > >> robust mechanism of strict invigilation > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On 26-Aug-2022, at 11:17 AM, Amena Kanchwala <amenakanchw...@gmail.com > > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> I feel that it will take lots of effort to solve this problem. Some > >>> efforts are required from our side including VI students, special > >>> schools > >>> and institutions, and some efforts are required from examination > >>> conducting bodies. Don't know how many years it will take to solve this > >>> problem. I would like to put forward my views on the same. > >>> > >>> · Maths should be the mandatory subject for the visually > impaired > >>> students after 8th. Students can grasp the concepts much better at an > >>> early age. > >>> · Some innovative methods should be developed for teaching maths > >>> and reasoning to the VI students. Some research needs to be done for > the > >>> same. > >>> · Computers should be the mandatory subject for VI students > after > >>> 5th. School exams should be taken on the computer itself. > >>> · An accessible examination software should be developed for VI > >>> candidates. It should contain the questions in text as well as in audio > >>> format. Candidates can understand the mathematical equation by > listening > >>> to the audio. I think it is feasible and might not cost much. However, > >>> all > >>> of your thoughts are welcomed for the same. > >>> · There should be no dependency on scribe. VI candidates should > >>> appear for their exam on their own. I personally feel that the > candidate > >>> should know how to operate a computer if he/she is appearing for the > >>> exam. > >>> · Lastly, as the discussion is going on for so many days, let's > >>> work upon the same. > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks and regards, > >>> Amena > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 10:34 AM anirudh rao > >>>> <personalanir...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> hi Harish, > >>>> I clearly understood your point. > >>>> > >>>> On 8/23/22, Harshit Lohia <lohia...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > Hi Access Indians, > >>>> > I also want to put forward my views. Although the solution which I > am > >>>> > suggesting is a stop-gap arrangement and curtails malpractices only > >>>> > partially, it can be a good beginning in this direction without > >>>> > brushing many feathers in the influential circles. I suggest that > >>>> > initially, say for 2-3 years, written exam (both online and > >>>> > pen-and-paper mode) should continue the way they are. Intervention > >>>> > can > >>>> > be after that. > >>>> > 1. For jobs requiring interview, at the time of interview candidates > >>>> > should be provided a computer with screen-reader of their choice > >>>> > (which can be declared by candidate at the time of filling the > form). > >>>> > An audio recording of a passage (say of 100 words) should be given > >>>> > and > >>>> > the candidate should be made to type the same independently using > >>>> > screen-reader. This will test the basic computer proficiency of the > >>>> > candidate and basic language skills such as grammer and spellings. > >>>> > 2. For jobs not requiring interview, the candidate can be given the > >>>> > flexibility of taking this test either on braille or computer. This > >>>> > flexibility is to take care of less priviledged but deserving blind > >>>> > candidates. > >>>> > The above test will not rule out the scribe business completely but > >>>> > totally undeserving blind candidates will be weeded out and it can > be > >>>> > a good starter. It will also give a signal in the market that the > >>>> > government and the industry is keen on addressing these issues. > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > On 8/23/22, ishan sangi <jsiya1...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> >> Dear list members > >>>> >> > >>>> >> I hope you are doing great > >>>> >> > >>>> >> I haven't discussed any solution in my previous mails because > >>>> >> > >>>> >> I am writing a proper case and its solution so that I can share it > >>>> >> with > >>>> >> everyone over this list > >>>> >> Although I support technological intervention in exams but don't > you > >>>> >> think > >>>> >> it is possible to do cheating in exam > >>>> >> With the help of computers and laptops > >>>> >> And introducing technology in examination hall is not that much > >>>> >> easy > >>>> >> it > >>>> >> requires lot of changes starting from software development to paper > >>>> >> setting > >>>> >> and lots of homework because in this case we can't leave any stone > >>>> >> unturn > >>>> >> and as we know everything is subjective to person to person > however > >>>> >> I > >>>> >> do > >>>> >> support technology and human interaction in exams and will send my > >>>> >> opinion > >>>> >> very soon > >>>> >> > >>>> >> Regards > >>>> >> Ishan jain > >>>> >> Student of Indian institute of management Indore > >>>> >> Alumni Of the kirorimal college University of Delhi > >>>> >> Co-founder of escafate edtech > >>>> >> > >>>> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022, 2:30 PM 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia < > >>>> >> accessindia@accessindia.org.in> wrote: > >>>> >> > >>>> >>> Yes, times have changed and so as technology too. > >>>> >>> But how many vi students can afford to have computers and learn > >>>> >>> technology > >>>> >>> in quick time? > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> I am only telling that before exploring to give exams in systems, > >>>> >>> have > >>>> >>> practical knowledge to do the exercises rather than struggling > >>>> >>> during > >>>> >>> exams. > >>>> >>> Cheers > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> DR. PAUL MUDDHA > >>>> >>> DIVISIONAL MANAGER > >>>> >>> Marketing & Public Relations Wing > >>>> >>> Head Office Annex ground Floor > >>>> >>> 2nd Cross, Gandhi Nagar Bangalore – 560009 > >>>> >>> PH NO :080 22207594 > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> >>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > >>>> >>> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > >>>> >>> On > >>>> >>> Behalf Of anirudh rao > >>>> >>> Sent: 23 August 2022 13:22 > >>>> >>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > >>>> >>> Subject: Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy > Candidates, > >>>> >>> Is > >>>> >>> Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'? > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> CAUTION: This email is originated from outside Canara Bank. Do not > >>>> >>> click > >>>> >>> any links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and > >>>> >>> know > >>>> >>> that > >>>> >>> the content is safe. > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> hi Ishan, > >>>> >>> you have well pointed out the flaws in both the systems. > >>>> >>> but, you have not given any suggestions to improve the same. > >>>> >>> by infrastructure developement, what type of improvement are you > >>>> >>> talking > >>>> >>> about? > >>>> >>> and what are the infrastructure in this case? > >>>> >>> and Paul sir, the time has changed. > >>>> >>> technology is the way of the future. > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> On 8/23/22, Harish Kotian <hpkot...@outlook.com> wrote: > >>>> >>> > Hi > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > I have been staying away from this thread, as I have in past, > >>>> >>> > have > >>>> >>> > expressed my view on this topic. This issue surfaces time and > >>>> >>> > again > >>>> >>> > on > >>>> >>> > this list. > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > This is my personal take. I believe, the system should be > >>>> >>> > disabled > >>>> >>> > centric. It should support him to bring out his potential fully. > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > We should also factor in that disability occurs at different > >>>> >>> > times > >>>> >>> > to > >>>> >>> > different persons. Therefore, the time to get rehabilitated is > >>>> >>> > different and it cannot be preset. Besides, the level of > >>>> >>> > technology > >>>> >>> > intervention besides the quality of technology is so very > >>>> >>> > variant. > >>>> >>> > Therefore, what is required is flexibility and spirit of > >>>> >>> > accommodation. > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > Yes, we know as a matter of fact, some folks resort to > >>>> >>> > malpractice > >>>> >>> > taking undue advantage of the situation. > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > The only way out is strict in vigilance. We need to call out > >>>> >>> > names > >>>> >>> > where we know there is misdoing.We need to complaint about those > >>>> >>> > persons and make only them pay for it. > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > Merely grumbling here and not doing the later part is doing > wrong > >>>> >>> > to > >>>> >>> > the deserving candidates. It is also alarming, the general > >>>> >>> > perception > >>>> >>> > is altering that blind persons are abusing the system. > Therefore, > >>>> >>> > the > >>>> >>> > onus of proving that we have earned our marks is on us, by > >>>> >>> > raising > >>>> >>> > our > >>>> >>> > standards that no one dares to think otherwise. > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > Harish Kotian > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > On 22/08/2022 20:45, ishan sangi wrote: > >>>> >>> >> for more discussion please come on my whatsApp > >>>> >>> >> <https://wa.me/919462942428> > >>>> >>> >> > >>>> >>> >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 8:41 PM ishan sangi > >>>> >>> >> <jsiya1...@gmail.com> > >>>> >>> wrote: > >>>> >>> >> > >>>> >>> >>> hellow everyone > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> this is my 2nd mail on this topic > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> let me share some cases with you all after there are some > >>>> >>> >>> questions > >>>> >>> >>> which I need answers from all of you > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> case 1. > >>>> >>> >>> a student of class x who is blind he prepare for his class x > >>>> >>> >>> exam > >>>> >>> >>> and he was sure that he will score well in Exams. on the day > >>>> >>> >>> of > >>>> >>> >>> exam the bord give him scribe but the scribe was not good with > >>>> >>> >>> english but student does not want to spoil his exam he started > >>>> >>> >>> with > >>>> >>> >>> exam, after scribe started facing problems with pronunciation > >>>> >>> >>> he > >>>> >>> >>> started to speeking spelling e.g. transaction he told t r a > n > >>>> >>> >>> s > >>>> >>> >>> a > >>>> >>> >>> c t I o n since the student was from english medium school he > >>>> >>> >>> was > >>>> >>> >>> given best scribe in previous exams. and now he was faseing > >>>> >>> >>> problem > >>>> >>> >>> but he was understanding and answering questions, when student > >>>> >>> >>> was > >>>> >>> >>> answering questions he have to tell most of word in the form > >>>> >>> >>> of > >>>> >>> >>> spelling e.g. if student want to dictate isolation he have to > >>>> >>> >>> do > >>>> >>> >>> like I s o l a t I o n which is taking time please note > that > >>>> >>> >>> the > >>>> >>> >>> scribe was from senter and was studying in class IX because of > >>>> >>> >>> this > >>>> >>> >>> the student got only 64 % > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> part end > >>>> >>> >>> questions > >>>> >>> >>> what was the falt of student? > >>>> >>> >>> now who is responsible for this? > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> case 2 > >>>> >>> >>> this time that student opted for PC based exam for his class > >>>> >>> >>> XII > >>>> >>> >>> exam he was having subjects accounts, English, economics, > >>>> >>> >>> business > >>>> >>> >>> studies, maths and psychology on the first day he has paper > of > >>>> >>> >>> accounts when he reached on his examination center he found > >>>> >>> >>> out > >>>> >>> >>> that the computers were not fine and > >>>> >>> >>> screen reader was crashing he suffered from time shortage > >>>> >>> >>> harf > >>>> >>> >>> of > >>>> >>> his > >>>> >>> >>> paper was unattempted > >>>> >>> >>> 2nd day when he having english exam things were fine he did > >>>> >>> >>> his > >>>> >>> >>> paper before time and came back home 3rd day when he has maths > >>>> >>> >>> paper > >>>> >>> >>> the screen reader was not reading question properly again his > >>>> >>> >>> paper > >>>> >>> >>> was not good e.g. screen reader was reading times simble as X > >>>> >>> >>> pai > >>>> >>> >>> simble as !! divided simble as dash or plus, union simble U > and > >>>> >>> >>> 2 > >>>> >>> >>> upon 5 as 2 > >>>> >>> >>> 5 > >>>> >>> >>> next day psychology paper was good > >>>> >>> >>> but on the day of economics paper because of OCR problem > again > >>>> >>> >>> mathematical simble were not read properly and 5X5 XY graf > >>>> >>> >>> was > >>>> >>> >>> told like xx > >>>> >>> >>> 5 > >>>> >>> >>> 4 > >>>> >>> >>> 33 > >>>> >>> >>> 2 > >>>> >>> >>> 1 > >>>> >>> >>> 012345 > >>>> >>> >>> how will he answer questions like these on the day of > business > >>>> >>> >>> studys paper suddenly computer got stopd, and it wasn't > started > >>>> >>> >>> after many tries. > >>>> >>> >>> on the result day > >>>> >>> >>> he got psychology 97 English 99 economics 43 maths 50 accounts > >>>> >>> >>> 59 > >>>> >>> >>> and in business study paper it was 0 total 348/600=58% his pre > >>>> >>> >>> boad > >>>> >>> >>> result he got psychology 87 English 90 economics 93 maths 90 > >>>> >>> >>> accounts 99 and in business study 95 total 554/600 > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> he can't make to his dream college > >>>> >>> >>> case end > >>>> >>> >>> what was the falt of student? > >>>> >>> >>> now who is responsible for this? > >>>> >>> >>> shouldn't we have to improve infrastructure first? > >>>> >>> >>> who will lisson his part? > >>>> >>> >>> what about his hardwork? > >>>> >>> >>> should he stop studying subjects like economics, maths etc? > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> now if we are talking about scribe vs screan reader what is > >>>> >>> >>> write > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> note both cases are not related to any live or ded person > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> want to just explain how are problems are different in real > >>>> >>> >>> life > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> and yes I was just putting my points don't want to hert > >>>> >>> >>> anyone's > >>>> >>> >>> feelling regards ishan jain co founder of EscaFate EdTech > >>>> >>> >>> student > >>>> >>> >>> of > >>>> >>> >>> indian institute of management indore alumni of KiroriMal > >>>> >>> >>> College > >>>> >>> >>> University of Delhi contact at WhatsAPP > >>>> >>> >>> <https://wa.me/919462942428> LinkedIn > >>>> >>> >>> <https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/ishan-escafate> > >>>> >>> >>> official mail ishan.j...@escafate.com > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> WhatsApp <https://wa.me/919462942428> contact > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 9:02 AM Marisport A > >>>> >>> >>> <marispor...@gmail.com> > >>>> >>> >>> wrote: > >>>> >>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>>> Dear AI members, > >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>>> This is a good discussion. > >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>>> When we were asked to give our voice on NEP on Disabilities, > >>>> >>> >>>> we > >>>> >>> >>>> have given our views on macro level and few points on each > >>>> >>> >>>> type > >>>> >>> >>>> of > >>>> >>> >>>> disabilities. however, I opine the outcome based inclusive > >>>> >>> >>>> education is the need of the hour. > >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>>> when we are thinking about scribe related mal practices I > >>>> >>> >>>> would > >>>> >>> >>>> like to highlight the following points,- > >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>>> 1) scribe as an option given to visually impaired who is > >>>> >>> >>>> totally > >>>> >>> >>>> or > >>>> >>> >>>> partially blind. > >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>>> 2) the total blind has the option of learning screen reader > >>>> >>> >>>> from > >>>> >>> >>>> the beginning > >>>> >>> >>>> or using scribe from the beginning or both. however, the > low > >>>> >>> >>>> vision candidates may not have the experience of the both > from > >>>> >>> >>>> beginning. In fact, I come across some of the low vision > >>>> >>> >>>> candidates > >>>> >>> >>>> have opted for scribe due to the font size and other > technical > >>>> >>> >>>> glitches in the examination. > >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>>> 3) I have appeared a group 4 exam in TNPSC, I have been > >>>> >>> >>>> allotted > >>>> >>> >>>> a > >>>> >>> >>>> scribe and at the time of commencement of the exam, the > >>>> >>> >>>> examiner > >>>> >>> >>>> asked the scribe to record our conversation during the exam > in > >>>> >>> >>>> an > >>>> >>> >>>> audio cassette. I opine that this can be adopted as best > >>>> >>> >>>> practice; > >>>> >>> >>>> but, there is a possibility of haggling arrangement between > >>>> >>> >>>> the > >>>> >>> >>>> scribe and the blind candidate. > >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>>> 4). audio and video recording of the entire exam by the blind > >>>> >>> >>>> while > >>>> >>> >>>> using scribe could be a viable option; for this, mobile of > >>>> >>> >>>> examiner > >>>> >>> >>>> or other people can be used for the recording. > >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>>> 5). though bringing scribe is given as an option to blind > >>>> >>> >>>> candidate > >>>> >>> >>>> still, I advocate that government should have pool of scribe > >>>> >>> >>>> with > >>>> >>> >>>> adequate qualification as per the requirements of each exams > >>>> >>> >>>> so > >>>> >>> >>>> that, states and PSUs could minimize these mal practices. I > >>>> >>> >>>> would > >>>> >>> >>>> like to highlight that my struggle on finding scribe during > >>>> >>> >>>> covid > >>>> >>> >>>> time while writing swayam exam was very painful. > >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>>> 6) we should not forget stories of how genuine candidates who > >>>> >>> >>>> lost > >>>> >>> >>>> their class exams and competitive exams due to unqualified > >>>> >>> >>>> scribes. > >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>>> 7) now option of scribe is also provided to other bench mark > >>>> >>> >>>> disabilities as well; hence, I also emphasize to widen the > >>>> >>> >>>> discussion for having comprehensive scribe policy. > >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>>> Regards, > >>>> >>> >>>> Dr. A. Marisport > >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >>> >>>> On 8/20/22, Pranav Lal <pranav....@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> >>> >>>>> Vaibhav, > >>>> >>> >>>>> > >>>> >>> >>>>> > >>>> >>> >>>>> > >>>> >>> >>>>> I would have agreed a few years ago where screen readers did > >>>> >>> >>>>> indeed have different keystrokes. However, these days, most > >>>> >>> >>>>> screen > >>>> >>> >>>>> readers have > >>>> >>> >>>> adopted > >>>> >>> >>>>> similar keyboard layouts. Yes, there are differences but > >>>> >>> >>>>> those > >>>> >>> >>>>> are > >>>> >>> >>>>> shrinking. I use nvda, orca, narrator and jaws routinely. > >>>> >>> >>>>> For > >>>> >>> >>>>> basic > >>>> >>> >>>> word > >>>> >>> >>>>> processing, the keystrokes are virtually the same. The same > >>>> >>> >>>>> applies to navigating on the internet. 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