now a days all ATMs have more than one machine in one room. And sighted people can easily see the transaction of other customers, including the secret pin number. So, i wonder where does privacy come from.
If it is so that screen turns blank with the usage of a screen reading ATM, it is really wonderful. I am trying to find out about this from the central office and would revert on this. On 7/8/10, jayinfotech <jayinfot...@yahoo.com> wrote: > dear Jayachandran > If possible write all messages in one mail it will reduce traffic > > > Amit > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of > Jayachandran1977 > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 07:20 AM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India > > Dear list members, > > Please dont conclude anything about this. Because I have not received this > card till now. And I have not used this also. > > After receiving and using this let me write to you in detail. Because I may > be wrong. > > Jayachandran > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kiran Kaja" <kirankaj...@gmail.com> > To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:21 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India > > >> Before I go further with this thread, let me clarify that I have obviously >> no information as to why or how SBI require a blind user to opt for a >> different sort of an ATM card for using speech features. Further, it is >> also >> unhealthy to jump to any conclusions with the scant information we have >> here. So, let us look at this objectively. >> >> 1. Logically, this ATM card should not be any different from any other ATM >> card. It won't be a separate card that only works with certain ATM >> machines >> providing a limited set of services. >> >> 2. the only difference is that this card will have extra embedded >> information that tells an ATM that this user may require speech. If that >> ATM >> has a speech feature, it will be enabled automatically. If there is no >> speech capabilities in an ATM, it will just offer the standard interface. >> >> 3. you will have to use headphones for speech features anyway. It would be >> foolish to have your bank balance read out by a loud speaker. >> >> >> 4. the problem with having a switch to enable and disable speech is that >> regular sighted users who may not know about speech features and may >> complain that they are unable to use certain features or their interaction >> is different for whatever reason. >> >> 5. If SBI are indeed restricting the functionality of these specialised >> ATM >> cards like not enabling them to be used in other machines in a normal way, >> it is the most idiotic solution and needs to be resolved. >> >> So, lets channel our energies in obtaining the right information before we >> start ranting about how differently we are being treated and all that. I >> don't think there is any harm in SBI requiring users to obtain a slightly >> modified card for using accessible ATMs as long as the basic functionality >> of the card is still available. >> >> Regards, >> Kiran >> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of >> Sathiyaprakash >> Ramdoss >> Sent: 07 July 2010 20:11 >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India >> >> I am still having troubles in understanding, why do we need to have >> an uniquely designed card to enable speech in ATM machines? >> You can have a small piece of switch to turn on the speakers. If you >> are really interested in protecting privacy, you can just give them an >> earphone jack, right? >> Earphone jacks would also help individuals with other reading >> challenges and senior citizens as well, right? >> >> On 7/7/10, Kiran Kaja <kirankaj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi Kanchan, >>> >>> It is a shame to say that there is currently no effort in the UK to >> advocate >>> for talking ATMs. I am trying to do some background research and >> eventually >>> prepare a business case for my employer to start some efforts in this >> area. >>> UK is far ahead in a lot of respects, there is even legislation to make >>> internet banking sites accessible. But sadly, nothing is being done for >>> ATMs. >>> >>> As part of my research, I am gathering information on how access to ATMs >> was >>> improved in North America (the developed country perspective) and other >>> countries such as India where this effort has just started recently. >>> >>> I am also very interested in the case before the CCD. May be that is an >>> approach that we could follow at some stage in the UK if at all I can get >>> some people interested in the topic. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Kiran >>> >>> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan >> Pamnani >>> Sent: 07 July 2010 19:30 >>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> Cc: Sam Taraporevala >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India >>> >>> There is a RBI circular. Will send it tomorrow. SBI has started rolling >> out >>> ATMs. We had tested these machines in Mumbai last year. I am forwarding >> your >>> >>> mails to Dr. Sam at XRCVC who has been in touch with the SBI. >>> >>> It started with a case before the Commissioner of Disabilities in 2005. >> then >>> >>> the RBI circular of 2008 and then the other circular of RBI to banks >> asking >>> >>> them to have 1/3rd talking ATMS. Then last year the testing and reports. >> Now >>> >>> the roll out has started. >>> They were supposed to be full fledged ATMS which additionally had audio >>> output. >>> Now when I read these reports of special cards etc. I am quite surprised. >>> >>> Please let me know what is your exact interest in this matter and I can >>> explain better. >>> Kanchan >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kiran Kaja" <kirankaj...@gmail.com> >>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:02 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India >>> >>> >>>> Hi Jayachandran, >>>> >>>> Thanks for replying. Would you be able to find out any details of >>>> installations apart from Chennai? I wonder if SBI have a roadmap for >>>> talking >>>> ATM installations? >>>> >>>> Further, I heard that RBI passed some sort of a directive requiring 30% >> or >>>> so of all banking ATMs to be made accessible? Is there a copy of this? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Kiran >>>> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12 >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of >>>> Jayachandran1977 >>>> Sent: 07 July 2010 01:46 >>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India >>>> >>>> Hello Kiran, >>>> >>>> This is Jayachandran from Chennai. >>>> >>>> Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai. For that >> we >>>> have to apply for a special ATM Card. I have applied for the same. >>>> Probably within a week I will be receiving that card. One of my >>>> visually >>>> impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash. As per his >>>> statement it is very user friendly. >>>> >>>> Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot >>>> cash, >>>> >>>> cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc., If you need more information >>>> please >>>> write. >>>> >>>> For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical >>>> cadre. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Jayachandran. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Kiran Kaja" <kirankaj...@gmail.com> >>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM >>>> Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in >>>>> India? >>>> >>>>> I >>>>> am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are >>>>> greatly >>>>> appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that >>>>> they >>>>> will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't >> suppose >>>>> any of them have been installed yet? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Kiran >>>>> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with >>>>> disability bill at: >>>>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> >>>>> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with >>>> disability bill at: >>>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>> with >>>> the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please >>>> visit the list home page at >>>> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with >>>> disability bill at: >>>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>> >>> >>> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with >>> disability bill at: >>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with >>> the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with >>> disability bill at: >>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with >>> the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with >> disability bill at: >> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with >> the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with >> disability bill at: >> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with > disability bill at: > http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm > > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with > disability bill at: > http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm > > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > -- G. 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