Before I go further with this thread, let me clarify that I have
obviously
no information as to why or how SBI require a blind user to opt for a
different sort of an ATM card for using speech features. Further, it
is
also
unhealthy to jump to any conclusions with the scant information we
have
here. So, let us look at this objectively.
1. Logically, this ATM card should not be any different from any other
ATM
card. It won't be a separate card that only works with certain ATM
machines
providing a limited set of services.
2. the only difference is that this card will have extra embedded
information that tells an ATM that this user may require speech. If
that
ATM
has a speech feature, it will be enabled automatically. If there is no
speech capabilities in an ATM, it will just offer the standard
interface.
3. you will have to use headphones for speech features anyway. It
would
be
foolish to have your bank balance read out by a loud speaker.
4. the problem with having a switch to enable and disable speech is
that
regular sighted users who may not know about speech features and may
complain that they are unable to use certain features or their
interaction
is different for whatever reason.
5. If SBI are indeed restricting the functionality of these
specialised
ATM
cards like not enabling them to be used in other machines in a normal
way,
it is the most idiotic solution and needs to be resolved.
So, lets channel our energies in obtaining the right information
before
we
start ranting about how differently we are being treated and all that.
I
don't think there is any harm in SBI requiring users to obtain a
slightly
modified card for using accessible ATMs as long as the basic
functionality
of the card is still available.
Regards,
Kiran
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Sathiyaprakash
Ramdoss
Sent: 07 July 2010 20:11
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
I am still having troubles in understanding, why do we need to have
an uniquely designed card to enable speech in ATM machines?
You can have a small piece of switch to turn on the speakers. If you
are really interested in protecting privacy, you can just give them an
earphone jack, right?
Earphone jacks would also help individuals with other reading
challenges and senior citizens as well, right?
On 7/7/10, Kiran Kaja <kirankaj...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Kanchan,
It is a shame to say that there is currently no effort in the UK to
advocate
for talking ATMs. I am trying to do some background research and
eventually
prepare a business case for my employer to start some efforts in this
area.
UK is far ahead in a lot of respects, there is even legislation to
make
internet banking sites accessible. But sadly, nothing is being done
for
ATMs.
As part of my research, I am gathering information on how access to
ATMs
was
improved in North America (the developed country perspective) and
other
countries such as India where this effort has just started recently.
I am also very interested in the case before the CCD. May be that is
an
approach that we could follow at some stage in the UK if at all I can
get
some people interested in the topic.
Regards,
Kiran
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan
Pamnani
Sent: 07 July 2010 19:30
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Cc: Sam Taraporevala
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
There is a RBI circular. Will send it tomorrow. SBI has started
rolling
out
ATMs. We had tested these machines in Mumbai last year. I am
forwarding
your
mails to Dr. Sam at XRCVC who has been in touch with the SBI.
It started with a case before the Commissioner of Disabilities in
2005.
then
the RBI circular of 2008 and then the other circular of RBI to banks
asking
them to have 1/3rd talking ATMS. Then last year the testing and
reports.
Now
the roll out has started.
They were supposed to be full fledged ATMS which additionally had
audio
output.
Now when I read these reports of special cards etc. I am quite
surprised.
Please let me know what is your exact interest in this matter and I
can
explain better.
Kanchan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kiran Kaja" <kirankaj...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
Hi Jayachandran,
Thanks for replying. Would you be able to find out any details of
installations apart from Chennai? I wonder if SBI have a roadmap for
talking
ATM installations?
Further, I heard that RBI passed some sort of a directive requiring
30%
or
so of all banking ATMs to be made accessible? Is there a copy of
this?
Regards,
Kiran
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Jayachandran1977
Sent: 07 July 2010 01:46
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
Hello Kiran,
This is Jayachandran from Chennai.
Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai. For
that
we
have to apply for a special ATM Card. I have applied for the same.
Probably within a week I will be receiving that card. One of my
visually
impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash. As per
his
statement it is very user friendly.
Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like
hot
cash,
cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc., If you need more information
please
write.
For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in
clerical
cadre.
Thanks
Jayachandran.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kiran Kaja" <kirankaj...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
Hi All,
Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in
India?
I
am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are
greatly
appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that
they
will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't
suppose
any of them have been installed yet?
Regards,
Kiran
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