I can't understand, why are you expecting everything from everybody. You can be a very good orator which I may not be; but I can be an icon in music of which you may know nothing. So knowledge of both in their respective fields can not be ignored or undermined. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vamshi. G" <gvamsh...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior


hi rajesh sir,

mobile partially sighted people, when blindfolded, may not meet your
challemge.  but i'm sure there are many totally blind people on this
very list who have the confidence and skills to do that.  i am talking
about those general independent skills.  and i agree with you on the
point that a white cane or guide dog can't make a blind person move
without any risk or inconvenience in a new environment.

Let me say that whatever i've said is in general and not in particular
to mr. Mahesh.

On 9/27/10, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
I believe aisha, Vamshi  and others who are championing independent
mobility in all circumstances particularly in the new surroundings, are
partially sighted and not totally blind.

While it is good to have mobility skills, I am afraid they would not enable
a totally blind person to navigate all alone in all surroundings without
undue risk.

I challenge mobile partially sighted to blindfold themselves and come to
Nagpur for BGFI convention in nagpur on october 2nd, and 3rd, reach the
venue and we shall have a fruitful discussion on all issues.....

Rajesh

-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of aisha sahani
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 8:27 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior

I can sympathise with this gentalman, but I guess, his  boss was not
wrong either.

if you say that you are equally competent to go there, why is this all fuss?

You have learned  to work  on computer with assistive technology
because it was not possible for you to do it in general way.

Do you think someone would have given you the job if you have asked
them to provide a human operator to read your screen instead of you
using the assistive technology?

Similarly, you should have acquired the independent mobility skills in
order to go there.
Even i would have not sent you if I were the boss.

I know, it was tuff luck, but  you can always count me in amongst your
well wishers.

Aisha sahani.




On 9/27/10, Vamshi G <gvamsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, I agree with Vasu and Geetha. Being dependent is not a sin or crime, but being independent is definitely an essential requirement when one goes
to a  new environment.


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Vamshi G
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
Chakravarthula
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 7:36 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Geetha Shamanna
Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior

Why is not a problem, if someone do not have mobility skills? Yes,
saying is easy that someone can holh his hand, why should someone has
to invest time to hold him all the time? While we talk about equal
opportunities, when there is possibility, why not we should have
skills of independence?

On 9/26/10, namdeo2000 <jadhav.nam...@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't understand what you are talking. If he is not good at his
mobility
so what? Only because somebody will have to hold his hand and guide him,
he
should be deprived of this opportunity? Being not able to move about
independently and to be an expert technocrat have no connection
whatsoever.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geetha Shamanna" gee...@millernorbert.
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior


Hi Mahesh,

Please do not get me wrong for asking you these questions, but how
independent are you? Do you travel to work and move around within the
office
on your own? Do you use a white cane? Do you travel independently
outside
Pune on your own, be it for official or private purposes?

The impression colleagues at work have of us blind people is to a large
extent dependent on the way we conduct ourselves. If a blind person
requires
assistance to move around within the office or to commute to work,
colleagues will always assume that blind people are dependent. It is not
their fault entirely; that blind person in their office might be the
only
blind person they have come across in their whole existence.

Instead of going to the press and publicising this issue, what is
probably
required here is for you to have a long and candid talk with your
superior
and try and convince him that you are capable of looking after yourself
during the US trip, and that you will not be excessively dependent on
the
colleagues traveling with you. You can also ask him to specifically list
out
his reservations; you can then  address them individually. If you have
traveled alone previously, tell him how you did so and how independently
you
dealt with the situation. It won't be easy, but each of us will have to
fight this battle on our own.

Finally, if he is not sufficiently convinced and does not agree to send
you
to the conference, do not give up. Whenever opportunities to travel to
local
conferences or other events within Pune or other parts of India arise,
be
the first one to apply. He may not be averse to sending you to local
events;
so make full use of it and try to be as independent as possible during
these
events. You will then notice how your superior's impression of you
changes.

Geetha
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mahesh Shah" <mss...@gmail.com>
To: "accessindia" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 5:45 AM
Subject: [AI] behaviour of my superior


Dear Friends--

I am writing to this list after a long time. I wish to tell you an
incident happened in my office , which shocked me.

Every year, a delegation goes from my office, C-DAC, to participate in
SuperComputing conference in USA. This year I put my self-nomination
for this. I am the most qualified and most senior person for the job.

But my boss called me for a one-to-one discussion and informed me that
it will be 'embarrasing' to send a person (VI) like me in . the
delegation. Because I will require someone's support and will hold
someone's hand. Also if some accident happens to me because of my
disability, he and office will be hold responsible for why they sent
such a person.

I was really shocked and upset with the behaviour. Then I withdrew my
nomination for participation in the conference.

Friends, I want to show you that how these learned so-called superiors
fail to understand the VI peoples aspirations and behave in such a
nonsense way.

Thanks for sharing my concerns.



Mahesh Shah
Pune

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