Stefen Hawkins better pass his days confined  in his home, no?
Why waste time for a cripple and a dumb?

Remember, mahesh is not asking for any special guide.\
Only his team members have to escort him a bit.
Stringent laws are the need of the hour.
no education or counseling does any good.
Coercion is many a times sole basis for morality.
That's why whole gamut of godliy heaven and hell  and that's why whole gammut 
of rule of law.
As my psychology teacher remarked once in exasperation at my repeated query 
about potential of cognitive behavioural approach in changing response to 
disability:
"Mr. Asudani, chastize them with direct verbal onslaught, and the whole 
attitude would change".


-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of namdeo2000
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:43 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior

According to you, helping somebody is a waste of time? Suppose there is a
poor man who has a very good ability of doing business. To start with, he
needs only RS 100 which he doesn't have. Now as far as you or people like
you, will not concede him that  amount because your logic is, why should you
waste your hard-earned money on him.
This gentleman from Pune, only needs somebody to guide him to move around.In
the conference he can exhibit his technical expertise thereby making the
name of his company.
 But he can not do this, as long as there are people like his boss and
people like you, who think that if he is not independent in moving about,
his being a expert technician is useless. Mahesh is only blind but, suppose,
there is some scientist of a very high stature, but he has lost his both
legs. As per your view, he must never be allowed to attend any seminars or
conferences because he would need somebody to push his wheelchair around.
Why should you waste your precious time for him? --- Original Message -----
From: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" <sriniv...@srinivasu.org>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>; "Geetha Shamanna"
<gee...@millernorbert.de>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior


> Why is not a problem, if someone do not have mobility skills? Yes,
> saying is easy that someone can holh his hand, why should someone has
> to invest time to hold him all the time? While we talk about equal
> opportunities, when there is possibility, why not we should have
> skills of independence?
>
> On 9/26/10, namdeo2000 <jadhav.nam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't understand what you are talking. If he is not good at his
>> mobility
>> so what? Only because somebody will have to hold his hand  and guide him,
>> he
>> should be deprived of this opportunity? Being not able to move about
>> independently and to be an expert technocrat have no connection
>> whatsoever.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Geetha Shamanna" gee...@millernorbert.
>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] behaviour of my superior
>>
>>
>>> Hi Mahesh,
>>>
>>> Please do not get me wrong for asking you these questions, but how
>>> independent are you? Do you travel to work and move around within the
>>> office
>>> on your own? Do you use a white cane? Do you travel independently
>>> outside
>>> Pune on your own, be it for official or private purposes?
>>>
>>> The impression colleagues at work have of us blind people is to a large
>>> extent dependent on the way we conduct ourselves. If a blind person
>>> requires
>>> assistance to move around within the office or to commute to work,
>>> colleagues will always assume that blind people are dependent. It is not
>>> their fault entirely; that blind person in their office might be the
>>> only
>>> blind person they have come across in their whole existence.
>>>
>>> Instead of going to the press and publicising this issue, what is
>>> probably
>>> required here is for you to have a long and candid talk with your
>>> superior
>>> and try and convince him that you are capable of looking after yourself
>>> during the US trip, and that you will not be excessively dependent on
>>> the
>>> colleagues traveling with you. You can also ask him to specifically list
>>> out
>>> his reservations; you can then  address them individually. If you have
>>> traveled alone previously, tell him how you did so and how independently
>>> you
>>> dealt with the situation. It won't be easy, but each of us will have to
>>> fight this battle on our own.
>>>
>>> Finally, if he is not sufficiently convinced and does not agree to send
>>> you
>>> to the conference, do not give up. Whenever opportunities to travel to
>>> local
>>> conferences or other events within Pune or other parts of India arise,
>>> be
>>> the first one to apply. He may not be averse to sending you to local
>>> events;
>>> so make full use of it and try to be as independent as possible during
>>> these
>>> events. You will then notice how your superior's impression of you
>>> changes.
>>>
>>> Geetha
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mahesh Shah" <mss...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "accessindia" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 5:45 AM
>>> Subject: [AI] behaviour of my superior
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Friends--
>>>
>>> I am writing to this list after a long time. I wish to tell you an
>>> incident happened in my office , which shocked me.
>>>
>>> Every year, a delegation goes from my office, C-DAC, to participate in
>>> SuperComputing conference in USA. This year I put my self-nomination
>>> for this. I am the most qualified and most senior person for the job.
>>>
>>> But my boss called me for a one-to-one discussion and informed me that
>>> it will be 'embarrasing' to send a person (VI) like me in . the
>>> delegation. Because I will require someone's support and will hold
>>> someone's hand. Also if some accident happens to me because of my
>>> disability, he and office will be hold responsible for why they sent
>>> such a person.
>>>
>>> I was really shocked and upset with the behaviour. Then I withdrew my
>>> nomination for participation in the conference.
>>>
>>> Friends, I want to show you that how these learned so-called superiors
>>> fail to understand the VI peoples aspirations and behave in such a
>>> nonsense way.
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing my concerns.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mahesh Shah
>>> Pune
>>>
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>
> --
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>
> Best regards,
>
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