hi Folks, In my view, when you apply for a job, your motto is not to test how aware the employer is. You want job, and the kind of lack of awareness we have in India, there are very few employers who would call you for interview after seeing disability mentioned on your CV. Moreover, I wonder why do we need to mention disability on CV? I find no reason at all until I’m able to perform equally with my other sighted colleagues. Many of the sighted folks have health problems like heart issues, diabetes etc, and like its not necessary for them to reveal their health problems on CV, it should be same in disability too. The purpose of CV is to answer “how able you are”, rather “how disable you are”.
So in my humble advise, mention your skillset on your resume, not disability. its just a physical difference, which does not matter at all till you are able enough to perform the job you are appearing for. The road ahead from submitting resume is already tuff, I find it unwise to make it tuffer by yourself by committing unnecessary mistakes. Regards, Prateek agarwal. Director, Daedal technovations pvt. Ltd. www.daedaltechnovations.com We bring the change we wish to see! Website: www.prateekagarwal.webs.com | www.prateekagarwal.tk ---------- Original message ---------- From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula <sriniv...@srinivasu.org> To: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 07:11:10 +0530 Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job search? Hi all, Please don't mistake me but I see no reason for mentioning disability. CV should explain the skill set and qualifications. Why would any employer feel Ee are hiding facts. Srinivasu Sent from my iPhone ---------- Original message ---------- From: norbu lepcha <norbu.a...@gmail.com> To: abees...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 03:38:38 +0530 Subject: Re: [AI] Hi http://fpeurl.com/video/index.html ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Sandeep Gautam" <sandeepgautam.n...@gmail.com> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 05:53:37 +0530 Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job search? HI friends, by not disclosing disability in our CV, can influence potential employer both way.. on one hand, employer can assume that the person is hiding the facts. Although, the CV holder can either convince interviewer that why he did not disclose the disability in CV and can make him understood what disables can do with assistive technology. on the contrary, the interview can start with negative and suspicious atmosphere. I think it is better to give some idea to potential employer about our disability before any interview. one way, we can do, we dont reveal disability in our CV but we can try to contact him via telephone or email simultaneously and can have an informal chat about our disability. Sandeep G ----- Original Message ----- From: "rahul cherian" < rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com> To: < accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job search? > My take is a little different. I believe that full disclosure is critical > if > you want to advance to senior positions in the workplace. When preparing a > CV I think that we should not apologetic about our disabilities and > therefore we should not add a column stating that we have a disability, > but > rather couch the wording in a different way and give clues as to our > disability. For example, you can think of adding for example, "Can work > with > most assistive technology including NVDA and JAWS" or "Member of National > Association of the Blind". So when meeting the employer for the interview > he > already has some idea that you have a disability. If the employer taking > the > interview finds out about your disability only at the interview, it may > come > as a shock and reduce your chances. > > I think it is also important at the interview to demonstrate what you can > do > by giving a demo of what you can do on your laptop. Be upfront and say > something at the beginning of your interview to put the employer at ease, > something like "I know that you are surprised to find a blind person > coming > for an interview, but I assure you that I am just as capable as anyone > else > when I am behind a computer". A smile from you here will be useful. > > As a person with physical disability who walks with crutches I have found > that a combination of ability and confidence can overcome any prejudices > that employers may have. > > Rahul Cherian > Inclusive Planet > > On 17 May 2011 10:23, Amar Jain < amarjain2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> My point is that if the employer sees your CV, and finds suitable >> qualifications, though if not remarkable achievements, and knowing >> that if he calls you, then he is open towards understanding about >> disability or things like assistive technoligies. Presuming employer's >> awareness at the initial stage is unlikely in 99% cases, unless you >> deal with bigshots. >> I would not prefer to convince people who are dam negative, because >> though after interview I might get the job due to the touch which it >> leaves on people's brain after seeing such commendable things like >> assistive technologies, but then at every step I'll need to do an >> extra effort of making them understand that yes, I can do this or >> that. >> I do not fear from taking challenges, but I would not want to take >> such challenges in areas like job where I need to spend my whole life, >> or few years, because coming over these challenges gets you nothing >> out of it, only the thing which you get is that the work is done by >> you. Whereas if the employer is of understanding nature, then after >> looking at your working style, he will appoint you, and not only that, >> he will let you do all things which you are capable of doing. In very >> few cases, you'll need to convince such an employer, and such cases >> would be so that where an ordinary person would not presume that a >> blind can do this thing. For example, using touch screen phone with >> screen reading technology or understanding images using tactle. Might >> not be a sound example, but at least that makes my point clear. >> If I may give my own example, then when I interned in Jan this year, I >> was well accepted by people of the office, but I was not given good >> amount of work despite prooving myself in all works which they gave >> me. Whereas, the place where I am currently interning, I am getting >> every day some or other thing, and I am making my brain strong. >> If I would have continued in my previous company, then my progress >> would have been slower then what I am doing now. >> Another example, if you go to branch manager for banking facilities, >> and if he just because of the banking circulars give you all the >> facilities and if at later date some facility come, he might deny or >> ask you for another circular. But if your manager is sensible and >> understanding person, then if he understands at the initial stage >> itself about various things related to disability, then at later stage >> you will not need to convince him that you can use this facility. The >> only thing which he will check is that there should not be something >> which denies such new facility to disabled. >> Come back for more clerifications. >> >> On 5/16/11, Adina Galani < lotusflowe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > One just needs to make a specification in the CV.> At least, out of >> > curiosity, I think the interview will take place. I am personally for >> > revealing it, rather than facing the confused attitude, on spot. >> > Adina >> >> On May 16, 2011, at 18:23, "Vamshi. G" < gvamsh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Amar, >> >>> >> >>> What if the employer doesn't have awareness about assistive >> >>> technology >> >>> till the interview? And the candidate sensitises him on the same and >> >>> manages to convince him that visually challenged people can work in >> >>> his office. Do you want to miss such an interview? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 5/16/11, Amar Jain < amarjain2...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> If I am asked, then I would recommend revealing disability on CV >> >>>> itself, because even after knowing about your disability if the >> >>>> employer is willing to interview you, then I consider him as the >> >>>> person having some positiveness. Otherwise it is said na "let your >> >>>> head hit the walls, it is your head which is going to get hurted and >> >>>> not the wall"! >> >>>> >> >>>> On 5/16/11, Pankaj Kwatra < pankaj.kwa...@tecnovate.co.in> wrote: >> >>>>> Hello All, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Truth is my word and does disability needs any declaration, if yes >> than >> >>>>> it should be at first instance rather then later. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Pankaj Kwatra >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >> >>>>> [mailto: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of >> Srinivasu >> >>>>> Chakravarthula >> >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 11:53 AM >> >>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job >> >>>>> search? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Hi George, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I think, it's a tough decision to make whether to reveal disability >> on >> >>>>> CV or >> >>>>> not and I think, one needs to make the judgement based on the >> >>>>> company >> >>>>> and >> >>>>> the level of awareness that company has. Although, it's >> >>>>> unfortunate, >> >>>>> but >> >>>>> at >> >>>>> times, when a employer sees disability on CV and if he / she is not >> >>>>> sensitized towards disability, then chance are more for rejection >> >>>>> and >> >>>>> he >> >>>>> / >> >>>>> she may not even inform the reason for rejection. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks, >> >>>>> -Srinivasu >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:46 AM, George Abraham >> >>>>> < geo...@eyeway.org> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> The question I would raise is "should your cv reveal disability?" >> >>>>>> In >> >>>>> most >> >>>>>> cases the disability would be evident during the interview or >> written >> >>>>> exam >> >>>>>> stage. But I certainly do believe that the employer must be made >> aware >> >>>>> of >> >>>>>> the disability before he signs on the dotted line. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Asudani, Rajesh" < >> >>>>>> rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> To: < accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 10:33 AM >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job >> search? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Well, if you require reasonable accommodation, or rather enabling >> >>>>>>> environment, disability has to be revealed, there is no choice, I >> >>>>> believe... >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto: >> >>>>>>> accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal >> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 6:05 AM >> >>>>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job >> search? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Hi Srinivasu, >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> We have had this discussion several times before though I would >> >>>>>>> be >> >>>>> curious >> >>>>>>> to know what, if anything Indian law says on this matter. The >> >>>>> article >> >>>>>>> also >> >>>>>>> states: >> >>>>>>> "As you mention, the ADA prohibits hiring managers from asking >> >>>>>>> job >> >>>>>>> candidates any medical questions, and the consensus among legal >> >>>>> experts in >> >>>>>>> this field is that you're under no obligation to bring up the >> subject >> >>>>> in >> >>>>>>> an >> >>>>>>> interview, unless you have reason to believe it could affect your >> >>>>> ability >> >>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>> do your job. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> And there's the rub. Since you managed to work around your >> condition >> >>>>> in >> >>>>>>> your >> >>>>>>> last job, do you think you could do the same in a new position? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Or do you have reason to believe it will be harder this time >> >>>>>>> around >> >>>>> (for >> >>>>>>> example, if the illness has gotten more severe, or the episodes >> more >> >>>>>>> frequent)?" >> >>>>>>> PL] In my experience, it is not so much whether you believe that >> your >> >>>>>>> disability will impact your job. It is all about the employer's >> >>>>>>> perception. >> >>>>>>> I see no easy answer to that problem. <chuckle You know, people >> >>>>>>> say >> >>>>> that >> >>>>>>> you >> >>>>>>> are sized in the first 3 minutes. 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