Instead of not mentioning about our disabilities why don't we preffer to mention the methods we have adapted to overcome it! This will create a clear picture in the employer's mind at the time of an interview and doubts in the employer's mind may be replaced by respect for our currage and confidence. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ajay Minocha" <ajayminoc...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job search?


Hy
srinivasu sir I am totally agread with you
because in our country things are quite different
even the people who are doctors and specially deal with eyes treatment
they also don't know the ablities the assistive technology can provide
to visually impaired
then what about employers?
how can we assume that they hav any idea regarding jaws and other
assistive technologies though things are quite changed in the recent
time but we will have to wate  for at least 4 to 5 years to show our
impairment  in our cv
these are my personal views
regards

On 5/17/11, rahul cherian <rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com> wrote:
My take is a little different. I believe that full disclosure is critical if you want to advance to senior positions in the workplace. When preparing a
CV I think that we should not apologetic about our disabilities and
therefore we should not add a column stating that we have a disability, but
rather couch the wording in a different way and give clues as to our
disability. For example, you can think of adding for example, "Can work with
most assistive technology including NVDA and JAWS" or "Member of National
Association of the Blind". So when meeting the employer for the interview he already has some idea that you have a disability. If the employer taking the interview finds out about your disability only at the interview, it may come
as a shock and reduce your chances.

I think it is also important at the interview to demonstrate what you can do
by giving a demo of what you can do on your laptop. Be upfront and say
something at the beginning of your interview to put the employer at ease,
something like "I know that you are surprised to find a blind person coming for an interview, but I assure you that I am just as capable as anyone else
when I am behind a computer". A smile from you here will be useful.

As a person with physical disability who walks with crutches I have found
that a combination of ability and confidence can overcome any prejudices
that employers may have.

Rahul Cherian
Inclusive Planet

On 17 May 2011 10:23, Amar Jain <amarjain2...@gmail.com> wrote:

My point is that if the employer sees your CV, and finds suitable
qualifications, though if not remarkable achievements, and knowing
that if he calls you, then he is open towards understanding about
disability or things like assistive technoligies. Presuming employer's
awareness at the initial stage is unlikely in 99% cases, unless you
deal with bigshots.
I would not prefer to convince people who are dam negative, because
though after interview I might get the job due to the touch which it
leaves on people's brain after seeing such commendable things like
assistive technologies, but then at every step I'll need to do an
extra effort of making them understand that yes, I can do this or
that.
I do not fear from taking challenges, but I would not want to take
such challenges in areas like job where I need to spend my whole life,
or few years, because coming over these challenges gets you nothing
out of it, only the thing which you get is that the work is done by
you. Whereas if the employer is of understanding nature, then after
looking at your working style, he will appoint you, and not only that,
he will let you do all things which you are capable of doing. In very
few cases, you'll need to convince such an employer, and such cases
would be so that where an ordinary person would not presume that a
blind can do this thing. For example, using touch screen phone with
screen reading technology or understanding images using tactle. Might
not be a sound example, but at least that makes my point clear.
If I may give my own example, then when I interned in Jan this year, I
was well accepted by people of the office, but I was not given good
amount of work despite prooving myself in all works which they gave
me. Whereas, the place where I am currently interning, I am getting
every day some or other thing, and I am making my brain strong.
If I would have continued in my previous company, then my progress
would have been slower then what I am doing now.
Another example, if you go to branch manager for banking facilities,
and if he just because of the banking circulars give you all the
facilities and if at later date some facility come, he might deny or
ask you for another circular. But if your manager is sensible and
understanding person, then if he understands at the initial stage
itself about various things related to disability, then at later stage
you will not need to convince him that you can use this facility. The
only thing which he will check is that there should not be something
which denies such new facility to disabled.
Come back for more clerifications.

On 5/16/11, Adina Galani <lotusflowe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One just needs to make a specification in the CV.>  At least, out of
> curiosity, I think the interview will take place. I am personally for
> revealing it, rather than facing the confused attitude, on spot.
> Adina
>> On May 16, 2011, at 18:23, "Vamshi. G" <gvamsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Amar,
>>>
>>> What if the employer doesn't have awareness about assistive >>> technology >>> till the interview? And the candidate sensitises him on the same >>> and
>>> manages to convince him that visually challenged people can work in
>>> his office.  Do you want to miss such an interview?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/16/11, Amar Jain <amarjain2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> If I am asked, then I would recommend revealing disability on CV
>>>> itself, because even after knowing about your disability if the
>>>> employer is willing to interview you, then I consider him as the
>>>> person having some positiveness. Otherwise it is said na "let your
>>>> head hit the walls, it is your head which is going to get hurted >>>> and
>>>> not the wall"!
>>>>
>>>> On 5/16/11, Pankaj Kwatra <pankaj.kwa...@tecnovate.co.in> wrote:
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Truth is my word and does disability needs any declaration, if yes
than
>>>>> it should be at first instance rather then later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Pankaj Kwatra
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>>>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Srinivasu
>>>>> Chakravarthula
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 11:53 AM
>>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job
>>>>> search?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi George,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think, it's a tough decision to make whether to reveal >>>>> disability
on
>>>>> CV or
>>>>> not and I think, one needs to make the judgement based on the
>>>>> company
>>>>> and
>>>>> the level of awareness that company has. Although, it's >>>>> unfortunate,
>>>>> but
>>>>> at
>>>>> times, when a employer sees disability on CV and if he / she is >>>>> not
>>>>> sensitized towards disability, then chance are more for rejection
>>>>> and
>>>>> he
>>>>> /
>>>>> she may not even inform the reason for rejection.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> -Srinivasu
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:46 AM, George Abraham >>>>> <geo...@eyeway.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The question I would raise is "should your cv reveal disability?"
>>>>>> In
>>>>> most
>>>>>> cases the disability would be evident during the interview or
written
>>>>> exam
>>>>>> stage. But I certainly do believe that the employer must be made
aware
>>>>> of
>>>>>> the disability before he signs on the dotted line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <
>>>>>> rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 10:33 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job
search?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, if you require reasonable accommodation, or rather >>>>>> enabling >>>>>>> environment, disability has to be revealed, there is no choice, >>>>>>> I
>>>>> believe...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
>>>>>>> accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 6:05 AM
>>>>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Should you reveal disability during the job
search?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Srinivasu,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have had this discussion several times before though I would >>>>>>> be
>>>>> curious
>>>>>>> to know what, if anything  Indian law says on this matter. The
>>>>> article
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> states:
>>>>>>> "As you mention, the ADA prohibits hiring managers from asking >>>>>>> job
>>>>>>> candidates any medical questions, and the consensus among legal
>>>>> experts in
>>>>>>> this field is that you're under no obligation to bring up the
subject
>>>>> in
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> interview, unless you have reason to believe it could affect >>>>>>> your
>>>>> ability
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do your job.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And there's the rub. Since you managed to work around your
condition
>>>>> in
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> last job, do you think you could do the same in a new position?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or do you have reason to believe it will be harder this time
>>>>>>> around
>>>>> (for
>>>>>>> example, if the illness has gotten more severe, or the episodes
more
>>>>>>> frequent)?"
>>>>>>> PL] In my experience, it is not so much whether you believe that
your
>>>>>>> disability will impact your job. It is all about the employer's
>>>>>>> perception.
>>>>>>> I see no easy answer to that problem. <chuckle You know, people
>>>>>>> say
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> are sized in the first 3 minutes. So, is the problem as simple >>>>>>> as
>>>>> doing
>>>>>>> something to shatter that perception in the first 3 minutes? >>>>>>> <grin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pranav
>>>>>>>
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