May be, but NIVH should also conduct thorough research. Also that doesn't have to stop us advising the railways.
Regards, Srinivasu http://srinivasu.org Twitter: @vasutweets Sent from my iPad On Jan 22, 2013, at 6:33 PM, "Padmanabham" <padmanabam.mu...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think they better to take the advice from NIVH. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sanchit Katiyar" > <katiyarsanchit...@gmail.com> > To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:24 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Braille stickers in trains for visually-challenged > > >> dear friends, >> >> it is a good initiative taken by the Railways. but they should be very >> careful about the sticking of the stickers. i am saying because most >> of the work in india is done without any research. after spending >> money, they feel that this is not useful and the valuable money would >> be waisted. >> >> On 1/21/13, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> coach numbers will be sticked sir! we have to run with the train and >>> touch the numbers! smile! >>> >>> On 1/21/13, Kiran Kaja <kirankaj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> This is an interesting development. I hope they do some research and >>>> follow >>>> guidelines about placing these braille labels at correct locations. I >>>> live >>>> in the UK and they do have braille labels in most trains here. But I find >>>> that in a lot of cases, these labels are almost useless because of their >>>> location. The other day for instance, I was on a train from London and it >>>> had a label on the toilet door. Unfortunately, this label was so high >>>> that >>>> it is totally useless. I am 6 foot 2 inches tall and the label was almost >>>> level with my nose. what they did apparently is to use the same sticker >>>> for >>>> the printed label and braille and obviously the printed label had to be >>>> placed high for visibility. Luckily in this country, they take feedback >>>> on >>>> these issues seriously. I complained to the train operating company and >>>> they >>>> got back to me saying that they are going to affix additional braille >>>> labels >>>> near the door handles. >>>> >>>> Further, having braille stickers externally is a good idea as long as >>>> they >>>> use strong enough glue to resist the dry heat as well as wet weather. But >>>> for external use, metal plates are far more durable. But I don't know how >>>> practical it is to have coach numbers in braille externally. Coach >>>> numbers >>>> change based on train formation and rolling stock being used that >>>> particular >>>> day. I hope we don't end up in a situation where the braille label says >>>> S1 >>>> but the coach is actually s15 <smile>. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Kiran >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula >>>> Sent: 21 January 2013 09:57 >>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Braille stickers in trains for visually-challenged >>>> >>>> As I said, it was my assumption. Yes, I believe, the coach numbers, if at >>>> all placed, would be adjacent to the door facing outside. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:19 PM, mukesh jain >>>> <mukesh.jai...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> hello, >>>>> if this is the case, then i really wonder how far it going to help to >>>>> board the proper coach for visually challenged, as its going to be >>>>> affixed inside the coach. if it would be adjacent to the door facing >>>>> the outside then before boarding in to the coach, it may help such vi >>>>> persons to read and know the coach number. >>>>> thanks, >>>>> mukesh. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/21/13, Srinivasu Chakravarthula <li...@srinivasu.org> wrote: >>>>> > If my guess is correct, probably coach numbers at the doors and seat >>>>> > / berth numbers. >>>>> > >>>>> > Best, >>>>> > -Srinivasu >>>>> > >>>>> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:30 PM, BHAVESH <charmingbhav...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> I am curious to know what information will be provided using those >>>>> >> braile stickers. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On 1/21/13, Ajeesh Thomas <ajeeshthoma...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >> > Hi All, >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > New Delhi, Jan 20: >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > In a first initiative of its kind, Indian Railways is likely to >>>>> >> > introduce Braille stickers in trains for visually-challenged >>>>> >> > passengers to facilitate their travel. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > "We are planning to provide Braille stickers inside the coaches >>>>> >> > for assisting visually impaired passengers," a senior Railway >>>>> >> > Ministry official said. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > "We are in the process of finalising details of introducing >>>>> >> > Braille stickers. This is the first time that Indian Railways is >>>>> >> > exploring such initiative," the official added. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > The initiative is likely to be announced in the Rail Budget >>>>> >> > 2013-14, >>>>> he >>>>> >> > said. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Braille is a writing system which enables visually challenged and >>>>> >> > partially sighted people to read and write through touch. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Recognising the needs of physically challenged persons, the >>>>> >> > Railways has also decided to provide special arrangements in all >>>>> >> > mail and express trains to facilitate their travel. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > "Railways is manufacturing coaches with specially designed >>>>> >> > compartments and toilets for passengers with disabilities. Now >>>>> >> > second class luggage room coaches are being modified to >>>>> >> > facilitate boarding of trains by differently abled travellers," he >>>> said. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > All mail and express trains with modified coaches, known as SLRD >>>>> >> > (second class luggage rake for disabled) coaches, will have >>>>> >> > reserved seats for physically challenged persons, official said. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Doors of SLRD coaches are being widened to facilitate the >>>>> >> > boarding of passengers using wheel-chairs. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Railways had made a commitment to a parliamentary committee to >>>>> >> > make special provision for facilitating train boarding for >>>>> >> > physically challenged passengers. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > There are total four seats in unreserved category in SLRD coaches >>>>> >> > and now these have been earmarked exclusively for the physically >>>>> >> > challenged passengers and their escorts. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > "Till date approximately 2,300 such coaches have been >>>>> >> > manufactured and at least one SLRD is provided in almost every >> > >>>>> >> > mail >>>> and express train. >>>>> >> > Similarly Garib Rath trains have been provided with AC >>>>> >> > compartment in power cars for differently abled passengers," he >>>>> >> > said. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Source: >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >>>>> http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/industry-and-economy/logistics/tra >>>>> ins-to-have-braille-stickers-for-visuallychallenged/article4325651.ece >>>>> >> > From an other mailing list, Insight-friends. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > -- >>>>> >> > With warm regards, >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Ajeesh Thomas, >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Banglore, >>>>> >> > Mob: 08861329916, Ph: 04742586821, Office: 08042823636 >>>>> >> > skipe: ajeeshthomas86 >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > "Never give up on what you really want to do. >>>>> >> > The person with big dreams is >>>>> >> > more powerful than one with all the facts." >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>> accessibility >>>>> >> of >>>>> >> > mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc >>>>> essindia.org.in >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Search for old postings at: >>>>> >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> >> > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> >> > with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>> >> > changes, >>>>> >> please >>>>> >> > visit the list home page at >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org >>>>> .in >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> with best regards, >>>>> >> Bhavesh. >>>>> >> Message composed on Dell vostro1440, using jaws for windows screen >>>>> >> reader. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>> >> accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc >>>>> essindia.org.in >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Search for old postings at: >>>>> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> >> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>> >> changes, please visit the list home page at >>>>> >> >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org >>>>> .in >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Regards, >>>>> > >>>>> > Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: >>>>> > http://www.twitter.com/VasuTweets >>>>> > Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | >>>>> > http://www.learnaccessibility.org >>>>> > >>>>> > Let's create an inclusive web! 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