Sonu,

It all roots back to lack of education and understanding, I can also add
'compassion'.

Most of the general crowd out there will not think twice before judging and
giving their opinion. At times like these you must follow your instinct and
conviction. 

I agree with Harish ji that by getting to a friend's advice about not going
home, as parents, elders and relatives most of the time look to diffuse such
situations. And at that moment it is not possible to recreate and explain
the whole situation to them.

I think what you did was right, and this incident will surely serve them as
a reminder; if not anything else. 

Best part- 'are vaikil sahib aap ka stoppage AAA Gaya'. Highlights that if
you ask for any explanations or want to sort out a matter, you are
advocating [zaroorat se zyada baat kar raha hai types people, seat mil gayi
na. Ab baith jao types people] and it doesn't go down right for the people
in our country.

I think and I do and I think.. and it goes on!! 

Cheers

Saurav
 

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kotian, H P
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 10:31 AM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones
and Tabs. 
Subject: Re: [AI] my dilemma and social atitude

Dear Sonu
Let me assure you, this is well within the scope of the list. I too tend to
agree with Shirin that you should not have withdrawn your complaint. At any
rate, you have demonstrated bravery and spirit for fighting for what you
consider is right.

Regarding the mindset of public supporting the derelict bus staff is because
such incidents causes delay and folks are tight up with their priorities. We
can't think for everyone and we should follow our conviction.

You have to take it as a matter of fact that, the family, despite proving
your metal, they take you by the disability and not your ability considering
what suits the occasion.

A small advise, whenever possible, you should go to some other house maybe
that of your friend and relative not in your locality in such situation. You
can save yourself from being traced and bullied on a later date.

Harish Kotian

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Shireen Irani
Sent: 27 August 2013 09:49
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones
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Subject: Re: [AI] my dilemma and social atitude

hi,
sorry about what happened to u, and it was very brave of you to face such a
situation all on your own. my only advise to u and any1 else lodging a
complaint, is to try as much as possible not to take back the complaint. the
police will generally keep pressurising and emotionally blackmailing u to
take it back in order to reduce their own paperwork. but it is very
important that u stick to your grounds even if your the only 1 on your side.
so dont let things go till the official f i r is written, or the necessary
chalaan is innitiated.
if peple have the audacity to misbehave like this, then they deserve only to
face legal consequences. anyway may u retain the courage to face up to such
broots always and fight back.
best wishes.

On 8/26/13, sonu yadav <sonuyadav.invinci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi friends, I am a regularreader of this list.  Today I want to share 
> an incident with you all which is  making me said and angery both and 
> moving my inner conscience. although it may be out of the scope of 
> this list but I feel our visual disability is in the centre of this 
> incident in which I happened to get involved today. This incident is 
> about our day today accessibility, experiences which we ordinarily 
> face outside and even more in the society. It has enriched my 
> experience as being disabled. I am expecting your comments and remarks 
> over it and about what we all should do in such circumstances.
> Now I straight do come to the incident. I was happened to travel to my 
> hometown along with another visually challenged friend Baljeet from 
> Gurgaon where I came for some urgent work. A private buss which I knew 
> was heading to our location. Conductor misguided us and physically 
> forcing us for not to board this buss. Despite we got in to the buss 
> by equal force as many of you would have done at any point in your 
> life more in case of private busses. My friend alighted on his 
> destination before me. I communicated to the conductor that I may 
> inform the PCR if he behaved in such an offending manner especially 
> when I was ready to pay the fair. In a fit of anger he said to me "ek 
> kan par marunga". I will blow on your ear. i got literally afraid. If 
> it punctured my airdrum though law will take its course but I will 
> never get my ear back. Therefore, at that time I thought wishful to 
> remain silent. Even many of the gentlemen and gentle ladies commuters 
> were saying that: "are buss men baitha to liya na. tumhe isiliye koi 
> baithata hi nahi hai". I tried to make them convince and understand in 
> a soft voice in my best capacity but they were adamant. Some of others 
> were saying "are Kuch nahi hua seat to mil gain a ab chup-chap baith 
> jao". At last I phoned to PCR. Despite my repeated exhortation 
> conductor refuse to talk to the PCR. Even he refused to divulge body 
> number of the buss as PCR was asking the buss number.  Even the worst 
> part is that no passenger was ready to tell me the same. Anyhow I 
> could manage to inform the location of the buss. The other worst part 
> was that PCR informed me that police is waiting for the buss at a 
> distance of around seven KM from the location of the buss. I wonder if 
> it is the case in Gurgaon than what might be the condition in smaller 
> and far-flung cities and villages. For this reason I didn't get down 
> on my destination as which was before that. Even conductor taunted me 
> "are vaikil sahib aap ka stoppage AAA Gaya" one co-passenger lady said 
> to conductor: "are aaj to ye tumhe hathkadi hi pahana kar maanega".
> "Isiliye to tumhe koi baithata nahi hai. ek tobuss men baitha bhi 
> liyaoopar se tum uski complaint kar rahe ho". "kuch bhi to aisa nahi 
> hua."  After police barricaded the buss, conductor and driver all 
> began apologizing and at the same time feigned their innocence in the 
> matter as if they did not know anything about it, They pretended that 
> any such thing didn't occurred and they did not in indulge anything of 
> sort. Some of the Passengers also took their sides. They were many but 
> I argued my case with them for almost one hour. Anyhow after heated 
> arguments I was able to compel police to chalan the buss as initially 
> they were not ready to do. Cutting it short conductor and driver 
> profusely apologized to me and emotionally blackmailed me by all means 
> and methods that they knew. Now Police was ready to issue Chalan now 
> it was all up to my will. He was swearing in the name of Ramadan at 
> another occasion he said that I am also Yadav of your community. Here 
> my purpose is not to comment on any religion but to expose his lies.
> At this point police played their usual spoiler. Although I refused to 
> share contact details any of my family members. Perhaps in their mind 
> they knew that only my family members could convince me take back my 
> complaint. they took me along with them to drop me at my home as they 
> were not ready to let me go on my home though I insisted  several 
> times that I am adult and you do talk to me as it has occurred with 
> me. When they didn't yielded I have to go with them to my home. Now 
> all driver, conductor and police began to apologize and convince all 
> my family members and brothers and uncles to persuade me to take back 
> the complaint. There also police was stating that they were ready to 
> Chelan the buss and they have to if I still insisted. Although 
> initially I refused to take back the complaint at no cost but under 
> moral pressure and prolonged persuasion especially by my family 
> members I felt compelled to take back the complaint otherwise Chalan 
> was certain. Here the incident ends.
> Here my feeling is that at large society either it is police, bus 
> operators, or passengers and sometimes our family members don't seem 
> to understand our struggle. It doesn't cost anything to my family 
> members to let that bus driver and conductor go unpunished. Instead 
> they got the credit and bountiful appreciation for mediation. At that 
> time they forgot and failed to understand and feel the struggle and 
> agony I underwent during that all and in putting my case. Perhaps they 
> don't know the struggle we face outside as being disabled. I am 
> feeling sad but somewhat satisfied that at least I reached so close 
> perhaps driver and conductor would take some lesson from this. But I 
> am said that even our families don't understand us. Though I guess 
> that some of you may support and subscribe to the views and action of 
> my family. But at least from my family even if they are part of my 
> extended joint family I expect them to support me instead of moved by 
> crocodile tears of  buss driver and conductor. They need to 
> cooperative and empathize to our pain, struggle and rights. It is 
> because of such some insensitive people in the society such as these 
> protagonists passengers, driver, conductor and policemen people with 
> disability and even others also face types of problems.  face it is 
> bitter but true. What do you think friends?
> Sonu Yadav
> PHD research scholar JNU CHS/SSS
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