Hi Mukeshji, You are 101% correct with your observations and real experience. We can't change beggers easily. Regards,
-----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of mukesh jain Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:07 PM To: neerajsaxena12...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Blind Beggars in Banglore hello, this is indeed ideal cause. but even my experience is very negative on this work. i know couple of of my own schoolmates who are begging in the local trains of mumbai. they are well educated even graduates. as i always in the search of my old friends and would like to find out about their life, i recently got in touch with few of them, who have passed their graduation, and due to lack of job opportunities around ten years back, they got in to this begging forcefully. while in conversation with them, i tried to offer few job opportunities to them in which they could earn 6 to 7 k initially which would grow over six months period to 15 to 20 k per month. but to my surprise, they simply rejected my offers and informed me that they can now easily earn rs500 per day in begging so why should they take any job which would decrease their present income? i tried to explain them about their tallents which will be fairly utilised and chances about promotions. but they are not willing to compromise with their present job. they now have the habbit of living lavish life having too many edictions like chewing tobaccos, ghutkas etc. which has become the part of their daily food. they say that they are happy doing this and would like to know technics to earn more out of begging. in their language, if i got the job, not necessary that we will get it and do not want to waste the time. once i tried to invite one of them to my place outside mumbai with the intention of changing his mind towards work during my stay, but i was not successful. rather i was surprised to know his demands to pay back to him his ticket charges, reimbursement of his daily food like mentioned above in the travel etc. along with his expected income of begging i.e. rs.500 per day for which he stayed with me. so hope that something good happends to their life in terms of rewarding their tallents by getting good jobs. thanks, On 11/19/13, Neerajsaxena <neerajsaxena12...@gmail.com> wrote: > The solution is sheltered workshops, the idea was mooted but never > implimented issue is who should run them ideally government must take > full responsibility. Yes, begging should be discurraged by all. > -----Original message----- > From: Syed Imran > Sent: 19/11/2013, 11:00 pm > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled.' > Subject: Re: [AI] Blind Beggars in Banglore > > > I'm trying to explore the societal and psychological landscape of > blindness, begging and charity - hence the below questions. Please > skip over to the next message if this is a waste of your time. > Should we actually discourage blind beggers from carrying out their > practise, or just ignore them, or support them? > What influence can the begging blind people have on other blind people > who do not beg? Why would any blind person want to beg in the first > place? Can the reason be different from that of a sighted begger? > Do all or most blind beggers beg with the intention of getting rich or > is it because of other reasons such as survival, desertion etc If we > want to stop the begging in the blind community, what is the ideal way > forward - Rehabilitation? Awareness? Legal reinforcement? > Do the blind beggers have better prospects? Are they being threatened? > Misused? Are there any organisations covertly or undoly highlighting > the helplessness factors of the blind in raising funds? Do people > become beggers out of frustration? > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf Of ishita kapoor > Sent: 19 November 2013 15:06 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerning the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Blind Beggars in Banglore > > Good work avinash. > Last year I got an opportunity to meet a blind person who was bagging > at hanuman temple rajkot gujarat. > I talked to him for 15 to 20 minutes. > He was intelligent and 12th pass. > He said that bagging is my business. And I am happy with it. I can > earn 500 per day in this business without doing anything. > I asked him to do something meaningful with his life. But he replied I > don't want to do anything. > I really found him happy with his life. > I couldn't speak anything. > I said him bye bye without giving anything. > > > On 11/18/13, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Dear All >> Nobody wants to begg, but hunger and burning stomach compell many to >> do > so. >> We should respect these blind beggars, who are in absense of any >> elementary support by family and the state are compelled to begg for >> alms. they are fighting for bare minimum.There are thousands who are >> forced to begg like them. >> Can we do anything for them? >> They are six blind men, 2 Aged around thirty, two mid thirties and >> other two above forty.. Two are holding dirty rounded clowths and >> others have stranded their palms in anticipation of money and food >> and singing in corus. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pEmOXC3M8w >> Please if possible supply few data/surveys done on blind beggars in >> Indian cities I'm writing one piece on blind beggars for one national >> Indian Magazine. 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