Endorse what shireen has said...
If we have waited for four years after committee formation, let us wait for one 
more and get the tings done now itself...


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wouldn't that be more difficult?? just asking. because once u have
things on paper, things can be very difficult to change. and then most
of the officials involved will probably wash their hands off us
claiming that we are only creating mennace.
while it is true, that waiting for another 5 years is not a good idea,
there's no harm in going on pushing till the endth hour. if things
cant change, then the bill can be passed as is.
my other worry is that they might turn around and say that all this
should have been thought of, while making the bill itself. its
probably not very smart to pass the bill, and then immediately fight
for amendments.
of course experts will know better, this is just of the top of my head.

On 2/2/14, li...@srinivasu.org <li...@srinivasu.org> wrote:
>
>
> Avinash.
> One thought: can we not get this bill passed and then push for amendment?
>
> I saw someone on this list asking Mr. Abidi that why did he not see the bill
> before putting efforts to get the bill tabled? I think it's also
> responsibility of everyone. Why did author of that email brought up the
> issues before?
>
> I agree with Kanchan that current drafted bill is better than the existing
> one. Yes, there are issues but friends, do you think if we miss this
> session, do we get the law soon?
>
> I sincerely feel we should now get it passed and then put in strong efforts
> to get the amendments.
>
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>> On 02-Feb-2014, at 22:17, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Its not eutopia mam.
>> India have pledged to bring in its domestic law in conformity with the
>> UNCRPD and this approved law has violated many of UNCRPD's fundamental
>> principles.
>> Better we mend this law within the time otherwise we have struggled
>> enough to see implementation of PWD and this bill if gets passed in
>> its current form, we particuarly blind will be the biggest loser.
>>> On 2/2/14, KanchanPamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Avinash and others,
>>> This is not a black law. It is not the best law that we can get but it
>>> is
>>> not black as you paint it.
>>>
>>> Please understand that this law is better than we have to some extent
>>> and
>>> with the non-negotiables on the table it is better than we can imagine.
>>>
>>> Yes we wanted more and yes we were sure we would get more but I don't
>>> think
>>> we will get more if we wait another 5 years.
>>>
>>> The reality is that if we miss this session of Parliament then we will
>>> have
>>> to wait for another government, another minister, another committee but
>>> the
>>> same set of disabled and Disability leaders and the same bureaucracy and
>>> the
>>> same kind of Legislature.
>>>
>>> We did quite a lot with our old PWD and we can do a lot with the current
>>> draft along with the non-negotiables. Should we not strive for better or
>>> should we only look for utopia?
>>> Kanchan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of avinash shahi
>>> Sent: 02 February 2014 18:56
>>> To: jnuvision; accessindia; sayeverything
>>> Subject: [AI] Do join: Protest at the Official residence of DOPT
>>> Minister,
>>> V. Narayanaswamy tomorrow
>>>
>>> Dear Friends
>>> Venue: Official House of Minister in charge DOPT at Tuglaq Lane
>>> Date: 3/2/2014
>>> Timing: 10:00
>>> The next 3 days are very crucial for all of us, persons with
>>> disabilities and those who are associated with the persons with
>>> disabilities.
>>> Please make up your mind and come and join our protest tomorrow
>>> against the proposed blac law for persons with disabilities and
>>> against not fulfilling six lakhs post which are lying vacant in
>>> various departments and ministries of Central Government despite
>>> Supreme Court's landmark judgment on October 8 2013 after the long
>>> fight faught by NFB's General Secretary Scenior Advocate SK Rungta.
>>> If we are not able to unite this time future seems very bleak for all of
>>> us.
>>> Do come for yourselves do come for ensuring better future to our
>>> future generations.
>>> male/female/transgenders  friends from DU, JNU, and those who are
>>> employed please take leave for this serious cause.
>>> and circulate among your networks.
>>>
>>> --
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