Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms

Wed, 23 Jul 2014 07:16:41 -0700

whatever it is, still I don't accept any arguement on the support of this capture. if a hacker can hack the website, he can also develop a software for this capture. i am making payment through debit card. i have entered all my information correctly, being an IT student describe me what is the necesity of this capture their. if this capture would not be their, how this will be harmfull to me or my banker. the overall risk is at my side because my account is being debited. and i have the infromation regarding my debit card like expiry date etc. even i provide my card number, can anybody hack my card without knowing its pin number or expiry date? At the time of making payment, if any hacker is seeing my computer, then he can also see this capture and solve it. it is nothing more then a fobia.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Hozefa Tambawala" <starh...@gmail.com> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms



The purpose of CAPTCHA can better be understood by the persons who are
working in IT field. I am studying in IT and can say it is essential
to implement CAPTCHA on certain websites. I completely agree that the
visually challenged persons find it difficult to solve CAPTCHA due to
the negligence of site developer as they do not consider such aspects.
But this issue can easily be overcome by educating them about other
alternatives for CAPTCHA implementation.

On 7/23/14, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:
what about that person who is having fearing deficiency? also if anyone is viewing the page with 2g connectivity or slow internet connectivity then it 

takes more time to get that audio and the matter wil and with server time
out message. this capture code must entirely be removed from all websites. 
there is no need of this code. it is nothing more than a fobia.


-----Original Message-----
From: Hozefa Tambawala
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:10 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms

If you listen the audio CAPTCHA carefully, then you will able to fill
out the write code. I too have faced difficulties while using the
audio CAPTCHA initially, but now have become use to it.

On 7/20/14, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:

it is very easy. register your pan number in incometax website. login
there

and fill the form ITR1 for salaried and pentioners. fill all the
information. if you are not sure, don't press the submit button, you can
save your draft by pressing save button. hope that while registering and
loging in yourself you will cross the capture code barrier.

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Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms




mr. bhawani
how visually impaired tax payer file their itr online?
On 7/19/2014 6:57 PM, bhawani shankar verma wrote:

on the ground of security the website owners have no right to make
their

website inaccisible. if the webvisum can capture the code and convert
in

in to text, then definetly other can develop malatious software to
capture such codes. may be the hackers don't know about this webvisum.
e.g. incometax efiling website i put my pan card as a user ID, password 
and my date of birth, what this capture is doing there as I have put
all

my cridentials? Even sometimes sighted persons can not recognise those
capture.




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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms



CAPTCHA is not the only way of circumventing robotic attacks, there
exist
better alternatives. I've mentioned a few in the previous email and
list
members have suggested alternatives like mobile OTP,  simple
mathematical
calculation, etc.
Security is one of the primary concerns that web sites have in today's 
world
and cannot be ruled out. It's about how smart and accessible it is
made

so
that genuine users can easily use it and malicious users can be
identified
and kept away from achieving their goals.

Best Regards,
Zujar..

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Sent: 19 July 2014 07:34 AM
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the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms

on the name of security I can't support at all this capture code.
webvisum
is not a solution it is just a tool to help. what would i do at a time 
if
the webvisum server is not working in emergancy? and it accepts only
20

hits
a day, sometimes in my office I have to make 30 to 40 online income
tax
payment, is it fair to call each and everry time to my sighted
colleague?
If you will support this on the name of security, no website will
remove
this capture code. it is just a fobia and nothing more then that.
instead of
wasting our time in discussing the matter better a strong action
should

be
taken against this capture. we have already many discussions regarding 
this
problem but got no result at all. I request you all to please go ahead 
for
conclusive action or end this topic here right now. this is a
plateform

of
inteligent people and in my opinion the discussion of intelligent
people
never concludes. instead it converts in arguement. I am completely
blind

and
my screen reader don't read this capture. this is one line question
and

I
did not get any absolute answer from this group.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" <zujarbri...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms



Hi!

The CAPTCHA is primarily introduced by web sites to key bots at bay.
They address security and web traffic concerns but their
inaccessibility pose challenges for users like us who cannot see
images. Audio based and random, obvious questions in plain text form
can prove helpful to us but web sites definitely need to be smarter
enough to filter out bad/malicious requests using better
aalternatives. For example:

1. ICICI Direct asks for PAN or date of birth along with User ID and
Passwird on the login screen.
HDFC Bank has a two-step login process where step 1 accepts only User 
ID and validates it. If correct then it takes the user to step 2
where
user specified secure code and picture are displayed for user
verification and accepts the password along with a confirmation
whether the secure code and picture are correct.
3. LinkedIn asks for solving CAPTCHA only when a user enters
incorrect
credentials in the sign-in attempt (though this is good fir users
entering correct credentials in the first attempt, it's not so good
for others).

The OTP on mobile is good but again a dependency on the phone being
registered with the site and being available with the user.

Webvisum on the Firefox browser is of great help in solving such
CAPTCHA. I've successfully filed my IT returns on the e-filing site
without requiring any sighted assistance.

Note that pasting from the clipboard is not allowed in the CAPTCHA
box
on the e-filing web site. So you may either memorize it or paste it
to
Notepad and read it from there while signing in.

A word of caution - Do not enter credentials before solving the
CAPTCHA using WebVisum as it may submit your credentials to WebVisum
which is insecure.

On 7/18/14, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:

you can file ITR online. it is accessible with jaws. but, before
login
you
have to type the image capture. I have a strong opinion to file a
petition
against govt of india regarding this capture code and full
accessibility
of

all the websites including private sector service providers like
telecom,
electricity, banking etc.
I also can not understand why these people are stucked with java.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alok Kaushik" <alok_kaus...@hotmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 8:17 PM
Subject: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms



Hi,
Income tax department has released Java based income tax return
forms
that

are completely inaccessible with JAWS. Excel version was partially
accessible but it is still not available for ITR 4. For other ITRs
excel
version of forms was recently released.

I want to chek on the following points.

1. Has anyone already taken up this issue with the income tax
department?
2. Does anyone know the concerned person(s) or department within IT 
department that can be contacted for this?

I have already inquired several times on the e-filing helpline
number.

Of course, the matter can be reported to CCPD but for now I am
looking
for

the concerned people or team in the income tax department.

Thanks.
Alok


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