The purpose of CAPTCHA can better be understood by the persons who are working in IT field. I am studying in IT and can say it is essential to implement CAPTCHA on certain websites. I completely agree that the visually challenged persons find it difficult to solve CAPTCHA due to the negligence of site developer as they do not consider such aspects. But this issue can easily be overcome by educating them about other alternatives for CAPTCHA implementation.
On 7/23/14, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote: > what about that person who is having fearing deficiency? also if anyone is > viewing the page with 2g connectivity or slow internet connectivity then it > > takes more time to get that audio and the matter wil and with server time > out message. this capture code must entirely be removed from all websites. > there is no need of this code. it is nothing more than a fobia. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hozefa Tambawala > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:10 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerningthe disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms > > If you listen the audio CAPTCHA carefully, then you will able to fill > out the write code. I too have faced difficulties while using the > audio CAPTCHA initially, but now have become use to it. > > On 7/20/14, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote: >> it is very easy. register your pan number in incometax website. login >> there >> >> and fill the form ITR1 for salaried and pentioners. fill all the >> information. if you are not sure, don't press the submit button, you can >> save your draft by pressing save button. hope that while registering and >> loging in yourself you will cross the capture code barrier. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Manoj" <man.sha2...@gmail.com> >> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:09 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms >> >> >>> >>> mr. bhawani >>> how visually impaired tax payer file their itr online? >>> On 7/19/2014 6:57 PM, bhawani shankar verma wrote: >>>> on the ground of security the website owners have no right to make >>>> their >>>> >>>> website inaccisible. if the webvisum can capture the code and convert >>>> in >>>> >>>> in to text, then definetly other can develop malatious software to >>>> capture such codes. may be the hackers don't know about this webvisum. >>>> e.g. incometax efiling website i put my pan card as a user ID, password >>>> and my date of birth, what this capture is doing there as I have put >>>> all >>>> >>>> my cridentials? Even sometimes sighted persons can not recognise those >>>> capture. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" >>>> <zujarbri...@gmail.com> >>>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>> concerningthe disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 6:29 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms >>>> >>>> >>>>> CAPTCHA is not the only way of circumventing robotic attacks, there >>>>> exist >>>>> better alternatives. I've mentioned a few in the previous email and >>>>> list >>>>> members have suggested alternatives like mobile OTP, simple >>>>> mathematical >>>>> calculation, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Security is one of the primary concerns that web sites have in today's >>>>> world >>>>> and cannot be ruled out. It's about how smart and accessible it is >>>>> made >>>>> >>>>> so >>>>> that genuine users can easily use it and malicious users can be >>>>> identified >>>>> and kept away from achieving their goals. >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> Zujar.. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>>>> Behalf >>>>> Of bhawani shankar verma >>>>> Sent: 19 July 2014 07:34 AM >>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and >>>>> issuesconcerning >>>>> the disabled. >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms >>>>> >>>>> on the name of security I can't support at all this capture code. >>>>> webvisum >>>>> is not a solution it is just a tool to help. what would i do at a time >>>>> if >>>>> the webvisum server is not working in emergancy? and it accepts only >>>>> 20 >>>>> >>>>> hits >>>>> a day, sometimes in my office I have to make 30 to 40 online income >>>>> tax >>>>> payment, is it fair to call each and everry time to my sighted >>>>> colleague? >>>>> If you will support this on the name of security, no website will >>>>> remove >>>>> this capture code. it is just a fobia and nothing more then that. >>>>> instead of >>>>> wasting our time in discussing the matter better a strong action >>>>> should >>>>> >>>>> be >>>>> taken against this capture. we have already many discussions regarding >>>>> this >>>>> problem but got no result at all. I request you all to please go ahead >>>>> for >>>>> conclusive action or end this topic here right now. this is a >>>>> plateform >>>>> >>>>> of >>>>> inteligent people and in my opinion the discussion of intelligent >>>>> people >>>>> never concludes. instead it converts in arguement. I am completely >>>>> blind >>>>> >>>>> and >>>>> my screen reader don't read this capture. this is one line question >>>>> and >>>>> >>>>> I >>>>> did not get any absolute answer from this group. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" <zujarbri...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:39 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> >>>>>> The CAPTCHA is primarily introduced by web sites to key bots at bay. >>>>>> They address security and web traffic concerns but their >>>>>> inaccessibility pose challenges for users like us who cannot see >>>>>> images. Audio based and random, obvious questions in plain text form >>>>>> can prove helpful to us but web sites definitely need to be smarter >>>>>> enough to filter out bad/malicious requests using better >>>>>> aalternatives. For example: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. ICICI Direct asks for PAN or date of birth along with User ID and >>>>>> Passwird on the login screen. >>>>>> HDFC Bank has a two-step login process where step 1 accepts only User >>>>>> ID and validates it. If correct then it takes the user to step 2 >>>>>> where >>>>>> user specified secure code and picture are displayed for user >>>>>> verification and accepts the password along with a confirmation >>>>>> whether the secure code and picture are correct. >>>>>> 3. LinkedIn asks for solving CAPTCHA only when a user enters >>>>>> incorrect >>>>>> credentials in the sign-in attempt (though this is good fir users >>>>>> entering correct credentials in the first attempt, it's not so good >>>>>> for others). >>>>>> >>>>>> The OTP on mobile is good but again a dependency on the phone being >>>>>> registered with the site and being available with the user. >>>>>> >>>>>> Webvisum on the Firefox browser is of great help in solving such >>>>>> CAPTCHA. I've successfully filed my IT returns on the e-filing site >>>>>> without requiring any sighted assistance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Note that pasting from the clipboard is not allowed in the CAPTCHA >>>>>> box >>>>>> on the e-filing web site. So you may either memorize it or paste it >>>>>> to >>>>>> Notepad and read it from there while signing in. >>>>>> >>>>>> A word of caution - Do not enter credentials before solving the >>>>>> CAPTCHA using WebVisum as it may submit your credentials to WebVisum >>>>>> which is insecure. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7/18/14, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> you can file ITR online. it is accessible with jaws. but, before >>>>>>> login >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> have to type the image capture. I have a strong opinion to file a >>>>>>> petition >>>>>>> against govt of india regarding this capture code and full >>>>>>> accessibility >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> >>>>>>> all the websites including private sector service providers like >>>>>>> telecom, >>>>>>> electricity, banking etc. >>>>>>> I also can not understand why these people are stucked with java. >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Alok Kaushik" <alok_kaus...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 8:17 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> Income tax department has released Java based income tax return >>>>>>>> forms >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> are completely inaccessible with JAWS. Excel version was partially >>>>>>>> accessible but it is still not available for ITR 4. For other ITRs >>>>>>>> excel >>>>>>>> version of forms was recently released. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I want to chek on the following points. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Has anyone already taken up this issue with the income tax >>>>>>>> department? >>>>>>>> 2. Does anyone know the concerned person(s) or department within IT >>>>>>>> department that can be contacted for this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have already inquired several times on the e-filing helpline >>>>>>>> number. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Of course, the matter can be reported to CCPD but for now I am >>>>>>>> looking >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the concerned people or team in the income tax department. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> Alok >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>>>>> accessibility >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>>>>> >>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind >>>>> ia.org.in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>>>>>>> changes, >>>>>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>>>>> >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>>>>> 1. 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