CAPTCHA is not the only way of circumventing robotic attacks, there
exist
better alternatives. I've mentioned a few in the previous email and list
members have suggested alternatives like mobile OTP, simple
mathematical
calculation, etc.
Security is one of the primary concerns that web sites have in today's
world
and cannot be ruled out. It's about how smart and accessible it is made
so
that genuine users can easily use it and malicious users can be
identified
and kept away from achieving their goals.
Best Regards,
Zujar..
-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 19 July 2014 07:34 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms
on the name of security I can't support at all this capture code.
webvisum
is not a solution it is just a tool to help. what would i do at a time
if
the webvisum server is not working in emergancy? and it accepts only 20
hits
a day, sometimes in my office I have to make 30 to 40 online income tax
payment, is it fair to call each and everry time to my sighted
colleague?
If you will support this on the name of security, no website will remove
this capture code. it is just a fobia and nothing more then that.
instead of
wasting our time in discussing the matter better a strong action should
be
taken against this capture. we have already many discussions regarding
this
problem but got no result at all. I request you all to please go ahead
for
conclusive action or end this topic here right now. this is a plateform
of
inteligent people and in my opinion the discussion of intelligent people
never concludes. instead it converts in arguement. I am completely blind
and
my screen reader don't read this capture. this is one line question and
I
did not get any absolute answer from this group.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" <zujarbri...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms
Hi!
The CAPTCHA is primarily introduced by web sites to key bots at bay.
They address security and web traffic concerns but their
inaccessibility pose challenges for users like us who cannot see
images. Audio based and random, obvious questions in plain text form
can prove helpful to us but web sites definitely need to be smarter
enough to filter out bad/malicious requests using better
aalternatives. For example:
1. ICICI Direct asks for PAN or date of birth along with User ID and
Passwird on the login screen.
HDFC Bank has a two-step login process where step 1 accepts only User
ID and validates it. If correct then it takes the user to step 2 where
user specified secure code and picture are displayed for user
verification and accepts the password along with a confirmation
whether the secure code and picture are correct.
3. LinkedIn asks for solving CAPTCHA only when a user enters incorrect
credentials in the sign-in attempt (though this is good fir users
entering correct credentials in the first attempt, it's not so good
for others).
The OTP on mobile is good but again a dependency on the phone being
registered with the site and being available with the user.
Webvisum on the Firefox browser is of great help in solving such
CAPTCHA. I've successfully filed my IT returns on the e-filing site
without requiring any sighted assistance.
Note that pasting from the clipboard is not allowed in the CAPTCHA box
on the e-filing web site. So you may either memorize it or paste it to
Notepad and read it from there while signing in.
A word of caution - Do not enter credentials before solving the
CAPTCHA using WebVisum as it may submit your credentials to WebVisum
which is insecure.
On 7/18/14, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:
you can file ITR online. it is accessible with jaws. but, before login
you
have to type the image capture. I have a strong opinion to file a
petition
against govt of india regarding this capture code and full
accessibility
of
all the websites including private sector service providers like
telecom,
electricity, banking etc.
I also can not understand why these people are stucked with java.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alok Kaushik" <alok_kaus...@hotmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 8:17 PM
Subject: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms
Hi,
Income tax department has released Java based income tax return forms
that
are completely inaccessible with JAWS. Excel version was partially
accessible but it is still not available for ITR 4. For other ITRs
excel
version of forms was recently released.
I want to chek on the following points.
1. Has anyone already taken up this issue with the income tax
department?
2. Does anyone know the concerned person(s) or department within IT
department that can be contacted for this?
I have already inquired several times on the e-filing helpline
number.
Of course, the matter can be reported to CCPD but for now I am
looking
for
the concerned people or team in the income tax department.
Thanks.
Alok
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