----- Original Message ----- From: "Harikrishnan.G." <harikoda...@gmail.com> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms
In that site, there are only mouse over links. Sometimes, even after pressing enter, those links do not get open. Even the Keystroke Insert + control + enter is not always working. Would like to know, what are the advantages of providing mouse over links in place of normal links in a web page? Here the visually challenged Gazetted officers are dependent on the sweet will of the colleagues for processing their monthly salary.Regards. Harikrishnan G.----- Original Message ----- From: "Krishnan" <moothimo...@gmail.com> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR formsfriends,in kerala, the gazetted officers have to browse their salaries with spark, a website to draw their salary. now the website is not at all accessible with webvisum. elier it was able to open with the help of webvisum. now we are not even able to open the site. On 7/23/2014 4:56 PM, Hozefa Tambawala wrote:The purpose of CAPTCHA can better be understood by the persons who are working in IT field. I am studying in IT and can say it is essential to implement CAPTCHA on certain websites. I completely agree that the visually challenged persons find it difficult to solve CAPTCHA due to the negligence of site developer as they do not consider such aspects. But this issue can easily be overcome by educating them about other alternatives for CAPTCHA implementation. On 7/23/14, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:what about that person who is having fearing deficiency? also if anyone is viewing the page with 2g connectivity or slow internet connectivity then ittakes more time to get that audio and the matter wil and with server time out message. this capture code must entirely be removed from all websites.there is no need of this code. it is nothing more than a fobia. -----Original Message----- From: Hozefa Tambawala Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:10 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms If you listen the audio CAPTCHA carefully, then you will able to fill out the write code. I too have faced difficulties while using the audio CAPTCHA initially, but now have become use to it. On 7/20/14, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:it is very easy. register your pan number in incometax website. login there and fill the form ITR1 for salaried and pentioners. fill all theinformation. if you are not sure, don't press the submit button, you can save your draft by pressing save button. hope that while registering andloging in yourself you will cross the capture code barrier. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Manoj" <man.sha2...@gmail.com> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR formsmr. bhawani how visually impaired tax payer file their itr online? On 7/19/2014 6:57 PM, bhawani shankar verma wrote:on the ground of security the website owners have no right to make theirwebsite inaccisible. if the webvisum can capture the code and convertin in to text, then definetly other can develop malatious software tocapture such codes. may be the hackers don't know about this webvisum. e.g. incometax efiling website i put my pan card as a user ID, passwordand my date of birth, what this capture is doing there as I have put allmy cridentials? Even sometimes sighted persons can not recognise thosecapture. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" <zujarbri...@gmail.com> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR formsCAPTCHA is not the only way of circumventing robotic attacks, there exist better alternatives. I've mentioned a few in the previous email and list members have suggested alternatives like mobile OTP, simple mathematical calculation, etc.Security is one of the primary concerns that web sites have in today'sworld and cannot be ruled out. It's about how smart and accessible it is made so that genuine users can easily use it and malicious users can be identified and kept away from achieving their goals. Best Regards, Zujar.. -----Original Message-----From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] OnBehalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 19 July 2014 07:34 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR forms on the name of security I can't support at all this capture code. webvisumis not a solution it is just a tool to help. what would i do at a timeifthe webvisum server is not working in emergancy? and it accepts only20 hits a day, sometimes in my office I have to make 30 to 40 online income tax payment, is it fair to call each and everry time to my sighted colleague? If you will support this on the name of security, no website will remove this capture code. it is just a fobia and nothing more then that. instead of wasting our time in discussing the matter better a strong action should betaken against this capture. we have already many discussions regardingthisproblem but got no result at all. I request you all to please go aheadfor conclusive action or end this topic here right now. this is a plateform of inteligent people and in my opinion the discussion of intelligent people never concludes. instead it converts in arguement. I am completely blind and my screen reader don't read this capture. this is one line question and I did not get any absolute answer from this group. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" <zujarbri...@gmail.com> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR formsHi!The CAPTCHA is primarily introduced by web sites to key bots at bay.They address security and web traffic concerns but their inaccessibility pose challenges for users like us who cannot seeimages. Audio based and random, obvious questions in plain text form can prove helpful to us but web sites definitely need to be smarterenough to filter out bad/malicious requests using better aalternatives. For example:1. ICICI Direct asks for PAN or date of birth along with User ID andPasswird on the login screen.HDFC Bank has a two-step login process where step 1 accepts only UserID and validates it. If correct then it takes the user to step 2 where user specified secure code and picture are displayed for user verification and accepts the password along with a confirmation whether the secure code and picture are correct. 3. LinkedIn asks for solving CAPTCHA only when a user enters incorrect credentials in the sign-in attempt (though this is good fir usersentering correct credentials in the first attempt, it's not so goodfor others).The OTP on mobile is good but again a dependency on the phone beingregistered with the site and being available with the user. Webvisum on the Firefox browser is of great help in solving suchCAPTCHA. I've successfully filed my IT returns on the e-filing sitewithout requiring any sighted assistance. Note that pasting from the clipboard is not allowed in the CAPTCHA boxon the e-filing web site. So you may either memorize it or paste itto Notepad and read it from there while signing in. A word of caution - Do not enter credentials before solving theCAPTCHA using WebVisum as it may submit your credentials to WebVisumwhich is insecure. On 7/18/14, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:you can file ITR online. it is accessible with jaws. but, before login you have to type the image capture. I have a strong opinion to file a petition against govt of india regarding this capture code and full accessibility of all the websites including private sector service providers like telecom, electricity, banking etc. I also can not understand why these people are stucked with java. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alok Kaushik" <alok_kaus...@hotmail.com> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 8:17 PM Subject: [AI] Inaccessible Java based ITR formsHi, Income tax department has released Java based income tax return forms thatare completely inaccessible with JAWS. Excel version was partially accessible but it is still not available for ITR 4. For other ITRsexcel version of forms was recently released. I want to chek on the following points. 1. Has anyone already taken up this issue with the income tax department?2. Does anyone know the concerned person(s) or department within ITdepartment that can be contacted for this? I have already inquired several times on the e-filing helpline number. Of course, the matter can be reported to CCPD but for now I am looking for the concerned people or team in the income tax department. Thanks. Alok Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.inSearch for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. 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