Guidelines can not be individual centric. We don't want such guidelines those will struggle in their implementation.
On 6/24/15, raaju <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Fully agreed with ajay! I even have faced the same issue when I'm persuing > B > C a. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Ajay Minocha > Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:54 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Writer guidelines > > Hi, > For your reference, sighting an example. > I had a subject called "Option Futures and Other Derivatives" which is > only taught in 2nd year in almost all the MBA programs. > It does contain a lot of complex equations like "BSOPM", "Measurement > of bond Duration, various kinds of yealds etc". > How will you explain all these complex fractions to a person who > hasn't even seen them before? > Wouldn't it waste a lot of your quality time in making him/ her right > the equation correctly? > Similar issue our friend Kartik has also faced in past. > If being a 12th class student he wants the scribe to write fiew > formulas which are only in class 12 syllabus then how will he manage > to do this in so- called time limit? > Wouldn't it cause extra disadvantage to his career? > How can he insure that the scribe has written the fraction/ equation > correctly? > If it is a formula then he can still verify it through the > calculations but what about that situation where numbers are not > involved? > Hope this clarifies things. > Regards, > Ajay > > > On 6/20/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay <mohibra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I couldn't get your second point. How does the person who knows all >> the simbels and notations, is more or over qualified than you? If one >> person is pursuing MBA program, cann't he get a scribe who is junior >> from the same stream who know how to write those particular symbols? >> In academic exams, my argument is that your scribe should not have >> passed the same exam at higher level in which you are appearing. Is it >> too hard? >> Then tell me how the mentality of the sarkari officers would be >> changed, who are believing that there are some chances of cheating >> etc. if candidate's own senior is writing his exam. >> And no authority is ready to accept those guidelines, so called MSJE >> guidelines which provide this unreasonable clause. >> >> On 6/19/15, Ajay Minocha <ajayminoc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I have following things to say. >>> 1. I fully agree with Avinash, Just imposing a bar on qualification >>> isn't a full- proof solution to crackdown malpractices by the >>> candidates. >>> If the incompitant visually impaired people have got jobs in banks by >>> greesing the palms of their scribes then it's the flaw of system and >>> other candidates can't be left tu suffer because of them. Here I fully >>> agree with Harish sir and being a finance student have seen the >>> practical side of it in this country's one of the most prestigious >>> business school. >>> 2. Mohib: It will just make my situation more miserable because the >>> person who knows all the simbels and notations correctly is over >>> qualified and the other one which is allowed by the examining body >>> doesn't know anything. So do you want me to forget about my >>> preparation and teach him how to read and right that particular >>> content? >>> 3. Sanjay: look into the technical part of allowing the candidates to >>> use screenreaders. >>> Even if the examining bodies insure that every computer terminal has a >>> workable copy of NVDA installed then how would you insure that the >>> system has been tested for all the bugs from a screen reader user's >>> perspective? >>> The point I want to make is that usage of screen readers in the exams >>> can be optional but can't be cumpulsory at any cost. >>> 4. Harish sir: using CCTV survailance can be an option but usage of >>> mobile phones and other removable camera devices can be a big concern >>> for the examining boddies. So those who can't afford a CCTV have to >>> rely on human beings only. >>> >>> P.s: all of it is a personal opinion and I don't intend to hurt >>> anyone's feelings. >>> Regards, >>> Ajay >>> >>> On 6/18/15, Misbah <jnu.mis...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> In the era of digital India, I think only way should be to check >>>> malpractices in examination is videography. Any other condition like >>>> lower educational qualifications may again force back to Stone Age. >>>> This present scribe guideline has done a revolutionary change in terms >>>> of shifting the blame of malpractice over the system rather than, over >>>> the most deprived and neglected poor blind candidates. >>>> Hence the responsibility of those who are right now in the realm of >>>> the affairs to venture this path very cautiously and open-mindedly. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/18/15, sanjay <sanjaylpra...@yahoo.co.in> wrote: >>>>> Most of the group members including the learned ones are simply >>>>> legitimising the dependency. Such provisions can create only >>>>> inefficient >>>>> and unskilled blind mass. Please remember, it was easy for unskilled >>>>> people to survive in 19th and 20th century because they did have >>>>> plenty >>>>> of >>>>> works to do. But today, the situation has completely changed. >>>>> Imagine >>>>> if >>>>> such guidelines are implemented in school and college levels. I knew >>>>> about >>>>> >>>>> a school where writers were also prepared for 10th grade exams with >>>>> blind >>>>> students before the exams and, in this process, dull students were >>>>> ensured >>>>> best writers. That school was interested only in grabbing newspaper >>>>> headlines by claiming that their blind students did better than all >>>>> other >>>>> schools in the state. Rest I leave to your imagination. If such >>>>> guidelines >>>>> >>>>> are backed by some institutes/organisations working for blind who are >>>>> interested only in taking credit for recruiting blind individuals, >>>>> then >>>>> there is no point in arguing about this subject. >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>> accessibility >>>>> of >>>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>> > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind > ia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please >>>>> visit the list home page at >>>>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>> 1. 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