MMS 3.0 is a lot easier then the old 2.2 version.
3.0 will be availible this summer and can be configured by the customer.
It's not that clunky and now comes with a nice wizard that helps you through the 
process. You still needs to know what you are doing because it's not really easy.
The biggest thing missing I think is a preview to see how the changes are going to 
look. 
I guess that's just an other reason to force us to get us to test this is in a test 
environment :-)

Fred


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Flesher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thu Jun 05 10:25:54 2003
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on

Are there any other products out there similar to MMS? When you say "clunky
to set up and configure", are we talking months?

Chris Flesher
The University of Chicago
NSIT/DCS
1-773-834-8477


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Corbett
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-onThat used to be the case, not sure if MMS 2003
has the same sort of requirements.

The main reason they had consulting attached was that MMS was fairly clunky
to set up and configure, and unless you knew what you were doing, could tie
youself up in knots fairly quickly.  Obviously not something MS wanted to
let "into the wild", as customers who had problems with it invariably came
away with a bad impression (through their lack of knowledge of the product).

..and it wasnt just MCS, any of the major "certified" partners could assist
you with MMS design / implmentation / deployment (did some consulting on MMS
while @ Compaq/HP).

Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Mayet, Yusuf Y
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:40 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Single sign-on


Rick, correct me if I am wrong but as far as I know if one is considering
MMS Enterprise than you are bound by MCS to assist you in the Q&A and
Design. (and they don't come cheap) Yusuf

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