I thought so. It sounds like this company only spoke to your professional services group.
Todd -----Original Message----- From: DiBias, Chip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 9:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool Just so everyone is clear on this subject...BindView will sell our NT/NDS migration tools to anyone. The Exchange migration tool however is now sold as a service. We recently changed this to help organizations expedite their Exchange migrations. As you all know Exchange migrations can be complex, challenging, and extremely visible projects. As such we have seen companies get themselves into trouble due to lack of preparedness, knowledge, or time. This is a new bundle and we feel it will lessen the time, stress, and challenges of moving to Exchange 2000/2003. Regards, Chip DiBias -----Original Message----- From: Chianese, David P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool NETIQ is a bomb IMO. It might as well be vaporware. We did better, and are currently doing better with a homespun vbscript, exmerge and another homespun profile update vbscript. Netiq looked good on paper but when it came down to the migration they left a lot to be desired. One of my biggest peeves about them is that we required a bunch of scripts outside of the netiq product itself and when they originally came in to demo it they told us the scripts would be made available to us. We have to date not received one script from them in helping our migration. In fact, they wanted to charge us for time to write the scripts we needed. We said no thanks and went on with our migration. Just a word of caution for you. Now with that said, our migration was a very complex one to say the least. We did inter-org with 5 different e-mail systems being collapsed to one new E2k org. including our nemesis, the dreaded World Talk switch. Buyer beware! Regards, Dave -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Leeuwen van, JWJ (Joost) Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool Do not remind me of Aelita and profile updates, it was a total disaster at my site. A script I wrote myself in 2 hours worked a lot better. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: vrijdag 14 november 2003 13:52 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool > > I'm not involved directly but my team has been evaluation the > Aleita tool. This handles profile updates. > > They are looking at methods to migrate 60,000 users in two orgs > so there is quite a bit to look at. > > Not sure if this tool is suitable for your environment. I > believe they only look at selling this to sites over 3,000 users. > > > > > from: "Ellis, Debbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:03:47 > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool > > > > Thanks. Did you have problems migrating local profiles? We are > > looking at NetIQ and Fastlane. NetIQ states they have the > lowest cost, > > but we haven't received a price quote yet from either. I > am concerned > > by the after a few patches... Does the Exchange Migration come > > bundled in with the Fastlane Migration tool or purchased separately? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rimmerman, Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 6:58 AM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool > > > > We're in the middle of a migration and we're using Quest > Fastlane Migrator. > > We bought a small amount (big enough for a pilot of 5 or so > sites) to > > make sure its worthwhile before buying enough for all 6000 users. > > They will let you 'lease' the software if you don't want to pay so > > much. That way, since you'll probably never use it again after the > > migration is over, you can just delete it and it ends up being > > cheaper. We've had pretty good luck with it (after a few patches). > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ellis, Debbie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 5:27 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool > > My company has decided not to use ADMT. We are in the > market for a > > migration tool. We checked with Bindview and were told they do not > > sell their products without also selling "Professional > Services" . We > > are not interested in Professional Services. Can any of > you recommend > > a good migration tool. We will also be migrating Exchange 5.5 to > > Exchange 2003 later on. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > This e-mail is confidential, may contain proprietary information > > > > of the Cooper Cameron Corporation and its operating Divisions > > > > and may be confidential or privileged. > > > > > > > > This e-mail should be read, copied, disseminated and/or used only > > > > by the addressee. 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