pretty much all the well-known tools are by now capable of "migrating" profiles while users are logged in. And I would really suggest to take the time to test at least two of the 3rd party products in your environment, because they've all grown up quite a bit and are generally rather helpful.
The early versions of some of the tools (incl. ADMT v1) tried to COPY the actual profile folder to a new folder which would not succeed as the NTUSER.DAT file is always locked when a user is logged on. Most tools (incl. ADTM v2) now give you the option to "SHARE" user-profiles for the migrated user, which basically just creates a new SID-entry for the migrated account in the local Registry on the client (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList) and then sets the profileImagePath to be the same value as the is stored in the SID-entry for the corresponding source account. Usually the tools still add the ACL of the AD account on the respective profile-folder of the file-system, as they can't assume you're always using SID-History during migration. However, not one of the tools really does a good job of informing you, which users it has updated on which machine(s) - i.e. you either have a pretty good idea yourself (how else are you going to know, that Joe Smith's account-profile has been updated for sure), or you do tedious checks in the logs or you simply script around the whole process yourself so that you know what's happening. Also, all the tools ignore other user-settings which are not stored in the user-profile itself, such as NetWare preferences, if you have to migrate clients which still run the MS NetWare client... - again something, that you have to take care of yourself. /Guido -----Original Message----- From: Rimmerman, Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Freitag, 14. November 2003 16:05 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool Were the users logged in while you were migrating the profile? I don't think any tool can migrate the profile while they're logged in. -----Original Message----- From: Leeuwen van, JWJ (Joost) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool We were moving our users from a NT4 domain to a Windows 2000 domain, that part went pretty well. Since we are using local profiles on our Windows XP machines the profiles had to be made available to the users in the new domain. Simply put, the Aelita logfile told us it processed all the PC's, but on the PC's the profiles weren't updated. We got hundreds of call from users who lost their settings. Joost > -----Original Message----- > From: Gayoso, Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: vrijdag 14 november 2003 15:41 > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool > > We are planning on using Aelita.. Can you be more descriptive > on why it was a disaster? > > _________________________ > > Raymond C. Gayoso > Fidelity Investments-Southwest > FISG ISS Team > FESCo > (817)474-8937 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leeuwen van, JWJ (Joost) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 7:06 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool > > > Do not remind me of Aelita and profile updates, it was a > total disaster > at my site. > A script I wrote myself in 2 hours worked a lot better. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: vrijdag 14 november 2003 13:52 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool > > > > I'm not involved directly but my team has been evaluation the > > Aleita tool. This handles profile updates. > > > > They are looking at methods to migrate 60,000 users in two orgs > > so there is quite a bit to look at. > > > > Not sure if this tool is suitable for your environment. I > > believe they only look at selling this to sites over 3,000 users. > > > > > > > > > from: "Ellis, Debbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:03:47 > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool > > > > > > Thanks. Did you have problems migrating local profiles? We are > > > looking at NetIQ and Fastlane. NetIQ states they have the > > lowest cost, > > > but we haven't received a price quote yet from either. I > > am concerned > > > by the after a few patches... Does the Exchange Migration come > > > bundled in with the Fastlane Migration tool or purchased > separately? > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Rimmerman, Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 6:58 AM > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool > > > > > > We're in the middle of a migration and we're using Quest > > Fastlane Migrator. > > > We bought a small amount (big enough for a pilot of 5 or so > > sites) to > > > make sure its worthwhile before buying enough for all > 6000 users. > > > They will let you 'lease' the software if you don't want > to pay so > > > much. That way, since you'll probably never use it again > after the > > > migration is over, you can just delete it and it ends up being > > > cheaper. We've had pretty good luck with it (after a few > patches). > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ellis, Debbie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 5:27 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool > > > My company has decided not to use ADMT. We are in the > > market for a > > > migration tool. We checked with Bindview and were told > they do not > > > sell their products without also selling "Professional > > Services" . We > > > are not interested in Professional Services. Can any of > > you recommend > > > a good migration tool. 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