We are using the Quest Fastlane Migrator 6.0.2 and are very happy with it.
Only real drawback is the ability to re-migrate groups is missing. i.e. you
cannot do a big bang migration of groups and then when you wish to update
the groups (as membership may have changed) it will only re-create the group
(with a new SID) not update the membership.

So we wrote our own tool to do that bit.

-----Original Message-----
From: Morley, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 14 November 2003 15:57
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool



I am testing out the Aelita tool, I've seen it work in my lab with W2k pro
machines, fairly easily.  Did you find out what went wrong?  I'd like to
know before my migration becomes a "crash and burn" scenario.



Scott Morley
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-----Original Message-----
From: Leeuwen van, JWJ (Joost) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:21 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool


No they were not. The PC's were booted at night with a wake on lan tool.
(And were confirmed as being on)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rimmerman, Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: vrijdag 14 november 2003 16:05
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool
> 
> 
> Were the users logged in while you were migrating the
> profile?  I don't think any tool can migrate the profile 
> while they're logged in.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leeuwen van, JWJ (Joost) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool
> 
> 
> We were moving our users from a NT4 domain to a Windows 2000
> domain, that part went pretty well.
> Since we are using local profiles on our Windows XP machines 
> the profiles had to be made available to the users in the new domain.
> Simply put, the Aelita logfile told us it processed all the 
> PC's, but on the PC's the profiles weren't updated.
> We got hundreds of call from users who lost their settings.
> 
> Joost
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gayoso, Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: vrijdag 14 november 2003 15:41
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool
> > 
> > We are planning on using Aelita.. Can you be more
> descriptive on why
> > it was a disaster?
> > 
> > _________________________
> > 
> > Raymond C. Gayoso
> > Fidelity Investments-Southwest
> > FISG ISS Team
> > FESCo
> > (817)474-8937
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leeuwen van, JWJ (Joost) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 7:06 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool
> > 
> > 
> > Do not remind me of Aelita and profile updates, it was a total
> > disaster at my site.
> > A script I wrote myself in 2 hours worked a lot better. 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: vrijdag 14 november 2003 13:52
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool
> > > 
> > > I'm not involved directly but my team has been evaluation
> the Aleita
> > > tool.  This handles profile updates.
> > > 
> > > They are looking at methods to migrate 60,000   users in two orgs
> > > so there is quite a bit to look at.
> > > 
> > > Not sure if this tool is suitable for your environment.
> I believe
> > > they only look at selling this to sites over 3,000 users.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >  from:    "Ellis, Debbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >  date:    Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:03:47
> > > >  to:      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >  subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks.  Did you have problems migrating local
> profiles?  We are
> > > > looking at NetIQ and Fastlane. NetIQ states they have the
> > > lowest cost,
> > > > but we haven't received a price quote yet from either.  I
> > > am concerned
> > > > by the after a few patches...  Does the Exchange Migration come
> > > > bundled in with the Fastlane Migration tool or purchased
> > separately?
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rimmerman, Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 6:58 AM
> > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool
> > > >  
> > > > We're in the middle of a migration and we're using Quest
> > > Fastlane Migrator.
> > > > We bought a small amount (big enough for a pilot of 5 or so
> > > sites) to
> > > > make sure its worthwhile before buying enough for all
> > 6000 users.
> > > > They will let you 'lease' the software if you don't want
> > to pay so
> > > > much.  That way, since you'll probably never use it again
> > after the
> > > > migration is over, you can just delete it and it ends up being
> > > > cheaper.  We've had pretty good luck with it (after a few
> > patches).
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ellis, Debbie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 5:27 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [ActiveDir] Migration Tool My  company has
> decided not to
> > > > use ADMT.  We are in the
> > > market for a
> > > > migration tool.  We checked with Bindview and were told
> > they do not
> > > > sell their products without also selling "Professional
> > > Services" . We
> > > > are not interested in Professional Services.  Can any of
> > > you recommend
> > > > a  good migration tool.  We will also be migrating
> > Exchange 5.5 to
> > > > Exchange 2003 later on.
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