Al Mulnick wrote:
I'm with joe on getting that network trace. I'm curious if replication has been working and if you made any adjustments for having a windows 2000 dc in a W2K3 environment? Any other applications?


Replication is working - both AD and FRS. GPOs apply. Everything seems to work except for the ability to access the admin$ share on the w2k3 DCs so that I can demote the machine cleanly and remove it from the domain.

The trace is in my message sent around 11:00am Central.

No other apps running.

On 6/20/06, *joe* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    What do you see in the network trace? Is it attempting the
    connection? Is it
    establishing the TCP/IP connection and then blowing out in the NetBIOS
    handshake? Does it get through the handshake and then fail?


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    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] On Behalf Of Al Lilianstrom
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    To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
    Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Problem removing last w2k DC from a w2k3
    domain

    Al Mulnick wrote:
     > Denying access?  Hmm.... so logged on to the w2K machine you can't
     > access the admin$ share of either of the DC's right?

    Correct.

    I can access any member server admin$ share from the w2k machine. I can
    access the w2k3 DC admin$ share from any other w2k3 machine in the
    domain.

    I just can't access the w2k3 DC admin$ share from the w2k DC.

           al

     >
     > On 6/20/06, *Al Lilianstrom* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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     >
     >     Robert Rutherford wrote:
     >      > Hi,
     >      >
     >      > It does sound like our old pal DNS.
     >      >
     >      > If you run a dcdiag and netdiag, do they both run clean?
    If not
    then
     >      > please post the results.
     >
     >     Both clean. Every test I can think of comes up clean. The
    only real
     >     symtom was in the orginal message - lack of admin access to
    the w2k3
    DCs
     >     from the w2k DC. Checking the event log on the w2k3 DC I see the
     >     computer and user log in and out successfully. Just something
    denying
     >     access.
     >
     >      > If all is clean and it's a test environment then pull it and
     >     clean it up
     >      > with ntdsutil et al.
     >
     >     Sounds like a fun way to spend the morning. :-)
     >
     >            al
     >
     >      > If it's a new situation then just replicate and see if you
    still
    have
     >      > the issue. I have always found a couple of hours helps
    many ills.
     >      >
     >      > BR
     >      >
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     >      > Sent: 19 June 2006 20:52
     >      > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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     >      > Subject: [ActiveDir] Problem removing last w2k DC from a w2k3
    domain
     >      >
     >      > I've in the process of upgrading my test domain (empty
    root and 1
     >     child)
     >      >
     >      > to w2k3 R2 based DCs and (thanks to help from the friendly
    folks
     >     here)
     >      > am just about done. I have one last w2k dc left to remove. It
     >     doesn't
     >      > want to go peacefully.
     >      >
     >      > I moved the FSMO roles off and the next day tried to
    dcpromo it
     >     down to
     >      > a simple server. I get
     >      >
     >      > Managing the network session with FBDC1.fnal.gov
    <http://FBDC1.fnal.gov>
     >     <http://FBDC1.fnal.gov> failed
     >      >
     >      > "Access is denied. "
     >      > dcpromoui t:0x848
    00479          Exit  State::GetFailureMessage The
     >      > operation failed because:
     >      >
     >      > Managing the network session with FBDC1.fnal.gov
    <http://FBDC1.fnal.gov>
     >     <http://FBDC1.fnal.gov> failed
     >      >
     >      > A quick check shows that I can't get to the admin shares
    of my
     >     new w2k3
     >      > dc/FSMO role holder from the w2k dc. I can get to the admin
     >     shares of
     >      > the other simple servers but not either of the 2 DCs. Other
     >     systems can
     >      > access the admin shares via the domain admin account I'm
    using on
    the
     >      > w2k DC.
     >      >
     >      > I've been searching and have found people having a similar
     >     problem when
     >      > promoting a w2k machine to be a DC but not when demoting. I've
     >     tried a
     >      > number of the things that were suggested in those articles and
     >     they have
     >      >
     >      > had no affect.
     >      >
     >      > There is no firewall in the way. AD replication and FRS work.
     >      >
     >      > Any ideas before I rip it out?
     >      >
     >      >       al
     >      >
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