Its explained pretty decently if you go in the GPO Editor, Computer
Config/Admin Templates/Printers.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:46 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Printers & AD GUI
> 
> Oh no kidding Brian... I had never heard that about the pruning... I
> hate to ask this, but is there any documentation on that? That would
> totally explain some things various folks have asked me about DCs
> spinning up dialup connections at WAN sites every 8 hours...
> 
>   joe
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 2:25 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Printers & AD GUI
> 
> Right. The computer is responsible for managing the print queue
> objects.
> Any changes you make on the print server are reflected on the
published
> queue. Everytime the spooler service starts it confirms that the queue
> objects for published printers are all still in the directory.
> 
> There is a thread that runs on every DC by default which prunes
printer
> objects. It attempts to contact the print server every eight hours and
> if it can't after two intervals (8 hours by default) the printer
> objects get deleted. If you move the printers out from under the
> computer objects, then the pruning thread is the only way they will
get
> cleaned up unless you do it yourself.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian Desmond
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> c - 312.731.3132
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
> > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 10:20 AM
> > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Printers & AD GUI
> >
> > Print Queue objects are created by default under the computer on
> which
> > the printers are shared from. It is, in fact, IMO, an extremely
> logical
> > way of handling it since you don't have to worry about delegating
> > permissions to print admins, the computer itself can create/delete
> them
> > as necessary. MSMQ Queues are handled the same way as lots of
> objects,
> > in my default R2 forest this is a list that can be handled this way
> >
> > applicationVersion
> > classStore
> > comConnectionPoint
> > dSA
> > indexServerCatalog
> > intellimirrorSCP
> > ipsecFilter
> > ipsecISAKMPPolicy
> > ipsecNegotiationPolicy
> > ipsecNFA
> > ipsecPolicy
> > msDFSR-LocalSettings
> > msDS-App-Configuration
> > msDS-AppData
> > msieee80211-Policy
> > mSMQConfiguration
> > mS-SQL-OLAPServer
> > mS-SQL-SQLServer
> > nTFRSSubscriptions
> > printQueue
> > remoteStorageServicePoint
> > rpcGroup
> > rpcProfile
> > rpcProfileElement
> > rpcServer
> > rpcServerElement
> > rRASAdministrationConnectionPoint
> > serviceAdministrationPoint
> > serviceConnectionPoint
> > serviceInstance
> > storage
> > Volume
> >
> >
> > As for why they are third class citizens in AD... I expect it is
> > because they are. I haven't done excessive investigation into how
> > printers are handled but I expect the print queue objects in AD are
> > simply reflections of the actual print queues on the servers. I
don't
> > expect you actually manage anything in AD for them, you manage them
> on
> > the server/ws and then the print spooler updates any info it wants
in
> > AD. Certainly you find them in AD but that just tells the underlying
> > software where to go look and the software goes to that print queue
> > directly on that server. I am pretty confident that if you delete a
> > print queue object in AD the print queue will work continue to work
> > fine on the server still, you just can't locate it via the AD.
> > Contrast that with users, groups, computers, and other objects I
> expect
> > you consider first class citizens. If you delete those types of
> > objects, you will find they no longer work at all. :)  You will note
> > that when you create a queue, you get the option to publish it to
the
> > directory, it isn't mandatory, not required, it is simply an option.
> >
> >   joe
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 10:44 AM
> > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> > Subject: [ActiveDir] Printers & AD GUI
> >
> > After 6 years of working with AD I just realized that when you
> unshare
> > a printer it becomes invisible and unmanageable. I guess I always
> knew
> > this in the back of my head, but it never hit home until I tried
> > cleaning up the printer list.  Why are printers third-class citizens
> of
> > AD, without a container or a OU to their name?  The only way to
> > remotely manage unshared printers is through the browse list, which
> is
> > a pain.
> > Am I missing something?  Are there other approaches to this? (no
> > megabucks solutions, please)
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